Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.

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Sujet : Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.
De : pcdhSpamMeSenseless (at) *nospam* electrooptical.net (Phil Hobbs)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 10. Sep 2024, 02:59:59
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On 2024-09-04 17:54, Phil Hobbs wrote:
The NTE2403, similar to the BFT92, but a bit better overall.  Dunno who actually made them. (I saw the news on s.e.repair today.)
 Rochester claims to have 1,500,000 of the 2SA1462 (1.8 GHz) for 20 cents, but that's all she wrote.
 I have a couple of reels of BFT92s and one of BFG31s, so I'm good for protos and small production, but I can't use PNP wraparound bootstraps for customer designs anymore. :(
 Barstids.
 Cheers
 Phil Hobbs
 
Something like this. This is what I call a Type 2 bootstrap, in which the bootstrap device is inside the TIA feedback loop.  You have to worry about drift and 1/f noise in the FET, but that's usually the least of your worries.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

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5 Sep 24 +* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.2john larkin
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5 Sep 24 +* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.14Jan Panteltje
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5 Sep 24 i `* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.12john larkin
5 Sep 24 i  `* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.11Phil Hobbs
6 Sep 24 i   +* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.7john larkin
6 Sep 24 i   i+* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.4Phil Hobbs
6 Sep 24 i   ii`* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.3john larkin
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6 Sep 24 i   `* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.3Gerhard Hoffmann
6 Sep 24 i    +- Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.1john larkin
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5 Sep 24 +* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.4Bill Sloman
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6 Sep 24 +- Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.1Gerhard Hoffmann
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7 Sep 24 +* Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.3Joerg
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9 Sep 24 i `- Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.1Joerg
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