Sujet : Re: Drat. NTE is gone, and they took the last 5-GHz PNP with them.
De : pcdhSpamMeSenseless (at) *nospam* electrooptical.net (Phil Hobbs)
Groupes : sci.electronics.designDate : 10. Sep 2024, 03:12:52
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On 2024-09-09 21:59, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2024-09-04 17:54, Phil Hobbs wrote:
The NTE2403, similar to the BFT92, but a bit better overall. Dunno who actually made them. (I saw the news on s.e.repair today.)
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Rochester claims to have 1,500,000 of the 2SA1462 (1.8 GHz) for 20 cents, but that's all she wrote.
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I have a couple of reels of BFT92s and one of BFG31s, so I'm good for protos and small production, but I can't use PNP wraparound bootstraps for customer designs anymore. :(
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Barstids.
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Something like this. This is what I call a Type 2 bootstrap, in which the bootstrap device is inside the TIA feedback loop. You have to worry about drift and 1/f noise in the FET, but that's usually the least of your worries.
Wrong file--this should be the right one
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TEXT 248 520 Left 2 ;Similar to \nLM6171
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TEXT 616 528 Left 2 !.MODEL BFT92 PNP( IS = 4.3756E-016 BF = 33.5815 NF = 1.0097 VAF = 23.3946\n+ IKF = 9.9538E-002 ISE = 8.7054E-014 NE = 1.94395 BR = 4.9472\n+ NR = 1.00254 VAR = 3.90385 IKR = 5.2816E-003 ISC = 3.5886E-014\n+ NC = 1.3933 RB = 5 IRB = 1E-006 RBM = 5 RE = 1 RC = 10 EG = 1.11\n+ XTI = 3 CJE = 7.4666E-013 VJE = .6 MJE = .35683 TF = 1.7492E-011\n+ XTF = 1.3546 VTF = .155654 ITF = 1E-003 PTF = 45 CJC = 9.371E-013\n+ VJC = .396455 MJC = .19995 XCJC = .106 TR = 8.422E-009\n+ VJS = .75 FC = .767856)
TEXT 352 96 Left 3 ;PNP WRAPAROUND BOOTSTRAP\nType 2: Bootstrap inside TIA loop, A_V = 0.993, 154 ns t_R\n \nPhil Hobbs\nElectroOptical Innovations LLC
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