Re: Visualizing

On Mon, 09 Sep 2024 06:02:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 08 Sep 2024 09:39:49 -0700) it happened john larkin
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On Sun, 08 Sep 2024 06:44:05 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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On a sunny day (Sat, 07 Sep 2024 07:39:46 -0700) it happened john
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On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 07:04:13 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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On a sunny day (Fri, 6 Sep 2024 15:08:34 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
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john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:

 
 
I was driving and listening to the local mostly-annoying NPR radio
station, but they had an interesting interview with a book author.
It was about his novel or some poetry or something.
 
What was interesting was his recalling a conversation that he'd
had with his wife. She was takling about a plant or something and
asked him to visualize it. He was astounded that she, or anyone,
could close their eyes and *see* something they were thinking
about.
 
I was shocked to learn that there are people who can't form a
mental visual image.
 
Close your eyes and consider a nice white ceramic dinner plate
with a beautiful deep red apple sitting in the center. Can you see
it? From the side and from the top? Do you see the stem? The
colors? Imagine it slowly rotating? See the fruit fly?
 
If the world is divided between people who can visualise and
people who can't, that could explain a great deal.
 
 
 

Or people who have a dialogue going on in their heads all the time.
Apparently that’s most people.

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I never had that.
I do 2 hours of meditation a day.

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But you could sleep for those two hours!

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Maybe, dream? I hardly dream at all.. few hours of sleep is normal, 4
hours or so.

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Yikes. 9 or 10 for me. When I was younger, I'd sleep for 12.
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I don't dream much that I know of, and the rare dream is just a bit of
everyday life. My wife has nightmares.
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I do solve problems and design stuff while I sleep, and wake up briefly
to take notes.

 
Do not even have a pen near to my bed :-)
As to 'visualizing' sound,
I remember you talking about alligator sounds messing with some
measurements now imagine (visualize) a very young alligator making a
more high pitched sound...
There is music! rhythmhythm counts too.
 
Visualizing... you are in the garden, big disc like thing descends next
to you on the grass sort of a door opens, clever looking creature steps
out,
says "are you John Larkin?" you acknowledge, creature asks for a Ge PNP
transistor to fix his disc ..
you have none, wants to help fix his spacecraft, creature shows his
electronic box with all sorts of stuff in it, little blobs covering
little chips funny connectors, joystick for steering his disc and a
picture of his Ohm planet...
you design a replacement circuit for the GE PNP ... solder it in place,
creature is grateful and gives you a little box , goes back in the disc
and warps away You open the box and see
 Russian doll Matroesjka ?
 
After posting about China wanting to do a Mars return here,
now ELon wants to do a manned Mars mission before 2028 I just did read.
It is all over the net:
 https://www.notebookcheck.net/Elon-Musk-pegs-the-first-human-flight-to-

Mars-for-2028-with-a-colony-to-follow-in-20-years.885865.0.html

Elon Musk is the Henry Ford of his day, Jan. A true pioneer. The fact that
his business managed to survive all those catastrophic car fires whilst
the occupants were locked inside by the car's brain testifies to that
achievement.