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De : alien (at) *nospam* comet.invalid (Jan Panteltje)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 12. Sep 2024, 11:27:07
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On a sunny day (Thu, 12 Sep 2024 09:45:30 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor
Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vbud7q$6hpt$1@dont-email.me>:

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:00:38 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
Artificial muscles propel a robotic leg to walk and jump:
 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/09/240909113111.htm
 
quote:
 "
 The actuators are oil-filled plastic bags, similar to those used to
 make ice cubes.
 About half of each bag is coated on either side with a black electrode
 made of a conductive material.
 Buchner explains that "as soon as we apply a voltage to the electrodes,
 they are attracted to each other due to static electricity.
 ...
 "
And press the fluid out....
So electrostatic actuators!
>
How does that not violate thermodynamics? You seem to be getting useful
power from zero energy.

You could use gravity to fill the tubes up again with fluid when voltage is removed?
Or use an other compressed tube to push fluid into the empty one that has now voltage removed
Building up the voltages takes energy.

But now, as to that mystery
electron orbiting an atomic core, what keeps it going?
Charge attraction,
right distance and speed keeps it in orbit.
you can say an object in space that is at the right distance and speed from a planet is in an eternal fall.
gravity keeps it in orbit
But there is a similarity there,
is this the same force in an other form.
Just a thought experiment
Our Jeroen from CERN man has referred to a paper that has the whole universe filled with fluid
the math seems to work out it says.

Drifting from subject a bit...
There is a lot of fun in fishicks


Date Sujet#  Auteur
12 Sep 24 * Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...34Jan Panteltje
12 Sep 24 +* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...31Cursitor Doom
12 Sep 24 i+- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1Jan Panteltje
12 Sep 24 i`* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...29Jeff Layman
12 Sep 24 i `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...28Jeroen Belleman
13 Sep 24 i  `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...27Jan Panteltje
13 Sep 24 i   +* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...3Jeroen Belleman
13 Sep 24 i   i`* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...2Jan Panteltje
13 Sep 24 i   i `- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1Jeroen Belleman
13 Sep 24 i   `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...23Jan Panteltje
13 Sep 24 i    `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...22Jeroen Belleman
14 Sep 24 i     `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...21Jan Panteltje
14 Sep 24 i      +* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...15Cursitor Doom
14 Sep 24 i      i`* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...14Liz Tuddenham
14 Sep 24 i      i +- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1Cursitor Doom
15 Sep 24 i      i `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...12john larkin
15 Sep 24 i      i  `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...11Jeff Layman
15 Sep 24 i      i   `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...10Cursitor Doom
15 Sep 24 i      i    +* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...2Liz Tuddenham
15 Sep 24 i      i    i`- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1Jan Panteltje
15 Sep 24 i      i    `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...7Jeff Layman
15 Sep 24 i      i     `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...6Nick Hayward
15 Sep 24 i      i      +* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...3Jeff Layman
15 Sep 24 i      i      i`* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...2john larkin
16 Sep 24 i      i      i `- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1Bill Sloman
15 Sep 24 i      i      +- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1john larkin
16 Sep 24 i      i      `- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1Bill Sloman
14 Sep 24 i      +* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...2Jeroen Belleman
15 Sep 24 i      i`- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1Jan Panteltje
14 Sep 24 i      `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...3john larkin
14 Sep 24 i       `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...2Jeroen Belleman
15 Sep 24 i        `- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1Joe Gwinn
13 Sep 24 `* Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...2john larkin
14 Sep 24  `- Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...1Jan Panteltje

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