Re: another hint of quantum consciousness

On 15/09/2024 3:33 am, john larkin wrote:

On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 13:03:07 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:13:10 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
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https://scitechdaily.com/groundbreaking-study-affirms-quantum-basis-for-consciousness-a-paradigm-shift-in-understanding-human-nature/
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Interesting way to define consciousness, the thing that goes away when
an a general anesthetic is applied. That can be quantified.

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I wouldn't get too fired up.  The researchers are undergrads, and the
bit about microtubles originally came from Penrose, back before the
Neurocomputation field had found plausible mechanisms in vector
algebra over hyperdimensional parameter spaces.

 Undergrads and amateurs often shake up scientific dogma.

It doesn't happen very often. Laurence Bragg was an undergraduate when he and his father invented X-ray diffraction (and got a Nobel
Prize for it) and Christopher Longuett-Higgins was an undergraduate when he invented the explanation for bonding in B2H6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diborane
He didn't get the Nobel Prize that was awarded in that area.
I can't think of any other examples (but I did meet both Laurence Bragg and Christopher Longuett-Higgins, so they have stuck in my memory).

Given that microtubules are very widely employed in all cells for all
manner of purposes, blocking microtubules does not imply that quantum
mechanics are or are not involved, as blocking anything that
fundamental is likely to affect very many things.

 Evolution seems to use anything that works, even if scientists
disapprove.

Scientist don't approve or disapprove - they merely observe. You are merely guessing.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney