Re: Exploding pagers

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Sujet : Re: Exploding pagers
De : alien (at) *nospam* comet.invalid (Jan Panteltje)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 18. Sep 2024, 07:30:32
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On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:18:26 -0500) it happened Crash Gordon
<uucp@crashelex.com> wrote in <vcch5i$3klpd$1@dont-email.me>:

Pagers, even with a cheap LiPo battery that fails, do not explode.
Somebody built hundreds, maybe thousands, of intentionally booby-trapped
pagers and then managed to distribute them to a large group of targeted
individuals.
>
This absolutely screams "state actor" but all of the states that would
be capable of pulling it off have disavowed any connection, as would be
expected.
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Posting is on-topic for s.e.d because these things had to be *designed*.
 Targets can be expected to cross security boundaries so these pagers
had to look like normal pagers under X-ray, and had to not "smell" like
explosives.  Putting aside, for sake of discussion, the horror of the
device itself and the evil necessary to conceive and deploy it, one has
to on some level, admire the skill required to manage it.

I have just read on RT (en.wpc.rt.com has address 89.191.237.192 if case it is blocked type 89.191.237.192 in your browser)
that e batteros were repalced with ones conating explosives:

Quoting RT:
Lebanon pager blasts ‘indistinguishable from terrorism’ – Snowden
 The remotely detonated explosions were “reckless” and indiscriminate, the former NSA contractor argued
 Lebanon pager blasts ‘indistinguishable from terrorism’ – Snowden
 People arrive at the Red Cross building in Beirut to donate blood following a series of pager explosions in Lebanon on September 17, 2024.
 ©  Houssam Shbaro / Anadolu / Getty Images
 The wave of synchronized pager explosions in Lebanon was “reckless” because the method did not account for potential civilian casualties, Edward Snowden has said.
 At least nine people were killed and some 2,800 injured across Lebanon when handheld pagers used by Hezbollah members simultaneously exploded on Tuesday.
 The pro-Palestinian militant group has blamed Israel for “sinful aggression” and vowed to retaliate.
 Israel has not acknowledged any involvement in the blasts.
 The Jewish state, however, has conducted airstrikes against Hezbollah members in the past and threatened more “military action” if the group does not stop its cross-border attacks on Israelis.
 Writing on X on Tuesday, Snowden suggested the pagers had likely detonated due to “implanted explosives” rather than being hacked because there were “too many consistent, very serious injuries.”

 “What Israel has just done is, via *any* method, reckless,” the former NSA contractor argued.
 “They blew up countless numbers of people who were driving (meaning cars out of control), shopping (your children are in the stroller standing behind him in the checkout line), et cetera.
 Indistinguishable from terrorism.”

 Sky News Arabia cited its sources as saying that the Israeli spy agency Mossad placed “a quantity” of the highly explosive material PETN (pentaerythritol tetranitrate) in the batteries of the pagers, and remotely detonated them by raising the temperature of the batteries.
 The rigged devices were reportedly part of a shipment that arrived in Lebanon earlier this year.
 Eight killed, thousands injured as pagers explode across Lebanon (VIDEO)

 The Lebanese authorities said civilians were among those injured.
 France 24 cited a Hezbollah source as saying a 10-year-old daughter of a Hezbollah member was killed.
 The group acknowledged on Wednesday that eight of its members had been killed, according to Sky News Arabia.

 Former IDF spokesman Jonathan Conricus pushed back against accusations that the explosions were tantamount to “indiscriminate” attacks.

 “Indiscriminate?? This is as surgical as you could possibly get, only targeting Hezbollah operatives that were important enough to have been issued special comms devices,” he wrote on X.
 He added that Hezbollah has been “attacking Israel for over 11 months, forcing 70K Israelis out of their homes.”

 Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant warned on Monday that “military action” would be necessary to ensure the safety of Israelis living in the areas close to the Lebanese border.
 US officials, however, have publicly discouraged Israel from taking steps that could trigger a full-blown war in Lebanon.

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