Re: Exploding pagers

On 19/09/2024 6:06 am, john larkin wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:34:48 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
 

On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 11:01:07 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
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On 2024-09-18 01:32, john larkin wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 19:03:45 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
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On 9/17/2024 6:39 PM, john larkin wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:18:26 -0500, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
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Pagers, even with a cheap LiPo battery that fails, do not explode.
Somebody built hundreds, maybe thousands, of intentionally
booby-trapped pagers and then managed to distribute them to a large
group of targeted individuals.
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This absolutely screams "state actor" but all of the states that
would be capable of pulling it off have disavowed any connection, as
would be expected.
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Posting is on-topic for s.e.d because these things had to be
*designed*.
    Targets can be expected to cross security boundaries so these
    pagers
had to look like normal pagers under X-ray, and had to not "smell"
like explosives.  Putting aside, for sake of discussion, the horror
of the device itself and the evil necessary to conceive and deploy
it, one has to on some level, admire the skill required to manage
it.

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It's assumed that the Israelis booby-trapped the batch of pagers that
were bought by Hezbollah. Fiendishly clever.

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They probably got a few militants among the thousands of civilians
injured, only credulous Americans would believe there was any kind of
highly rigorous methodology as to how they were distributed.

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I understand that Hezbollah bought the pagers for their own use for
secure communications, so Hezbollah people mostly got them.
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Collateral damage is to some extent inevitable in war, but the Israelis
are not terrorists. Hamas and Hezbollah are.

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Israelis invented terrorism when they planted a bomb in the King David
Hotel
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
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But discussing any of that is off topic in this group.

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The state of Israel only came into being in the first place due to Jewish
terrorist groups like Ergun and the Stern Gang. All these groups in the ME
on all sides are a giant pain in the arse to everyone else. Hopefully if
Trump gets back into the WH he'll let them all just blow themselves to
pieces without any US intervention and we'll finally have peace over
there.

 The Brits partitioned the area into Jewish and Arab regions, and the
UN agreed. And then a bunch of Muslim countries attacked Israel. And
lost.
 They said that the transmissions in Egyptian tanks had one speed
forward and four in reverse.

Recycled joke from the WW2 Italian campaign.

It is hard for the muslims to make peace with themselves, much less
with Israel.

Christians have much the same problem. The hundred years war thinned out that
particular gene pool, but it does seem to be built into the religious mind-set.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney