Sujet : Re: This is Not America
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.designDate : 25. Sep 2024, 16:01:45
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On 25/09/2024 8:02 pm, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:
The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.
No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.
Lenin didn't kill any millions of people - there were only about 200,000 people in gulags when he died, and they developed their deadly character under Stalin
Castro was an island monkey without much influence in comparison.
And it's kinda funny how the Left moved Hitler's
"National-Socialist Worker's Party" to the right, carefully
avoiding the Socialist part by inventing the word "Nazi",
which is actually a diminuitive.
I don't think that the Left had anything to do with that.
Hitler's movement was always anti-semitic - which lead him to admire Henry Ford - and he shared Ford's anti-trade union principles as well.
Mussolini actually moved from being an actual socialist to being a fascist - Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the leading role of the party didn't have anything to do with democratic socialism.
I don't think Hitler saw the word socialism as having anything to do with socialist principles - it was more about uniting the whole population, which makes it more a buzz-word than a principle in Nazi party title.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney