Re: This is Not America

On 29/09/2024 7:44 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:14:59 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
 

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:02:05 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:
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Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:
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The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

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No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.

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Once the  Marxist Party takes control, you have a selfish and
eventually murderous elite owning and controlling everything.

 There wasn't even much "eventually" about it, either. By the early
1920s, Lenin was already instigating the first wave of murderous
persecutions.

There were certainly murderous persecutions going on - Victor Serge's "Memoirs of a Revolutionary" documents that.
https://shop.redflag.org.au/products/memoirs-of-a-revolutionary
Lenin doesn't come out of that as any kind of psychopath (though Stalin does) but at the start the problem was more the Russian political system rather than the defects of Marxist-Leninism.

Marxists just can't wait to get their hands around other
folks' throats. Let's not kid ourselves this madness couldn't arise
again today, either.

Rubbish. Revolutions are messy, and psychopathic scum rise to power whatever the underlying politics happen to be.
Trump despite his right-wing views, is no less dangerous than his left-wing counterparts and probably much more dangerous than any prominent left-winger in the west.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney