Re: RF Metrology

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Sujet : Re: RF Metrology
De : alien (at) *nospam* comet.invalid (Jan Panteltje)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 30. Sep 2024, 07:00:14
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On a sunny day (Sun, 29 Sep 2024 22:52:24 +0100) it happened Cursitor Doom
<cd@notformail.com> wrote in <1vijfjd186gmgjn6dbf93v4ehv3v1ts7pt@4ax.com>:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 14:06:23 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
>
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 20:47:39 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 19:57:34 +0100, John R Walliker
<jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
On 29/09/2024 19:02, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 9/29/24 19:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Greetings, gentlemen,
>
I bought one of those TinySA Ultras recently and have spent some time
testing it today. I have to say it's amazing what they've done for the
price. I mean, truly amazing. I do have two other 'proper' lab-grade
RF spectrum analyzers, but I think I'm going to be mostly using the
TinySA in future as it's just *so* convenient and doesn't weigh a ton.
Anyway, to get back to the point of this post, having checked out the
TSA and establishing I didn't buy one of the fake versions that are
out there, I turned my attention to my mid-level RF SA, an HP who's
model number escapes me (not the 8566B I've posted here about before
which is now fully working, but a newer model that's about 1/3 as
heavy. I say I can't recall the model number but it's not relevant to
this question anyway. "So what is the fucking question, CD??" I hear
you not unreasonably cry. Well, it's this:
When I'm feeding an RF signal into the SA, I'm seeing differing
amplitudes at different frequencies. So I've programmed in a sweep
from 10Mhz to 5.4Ghz at -49dBm using my Aeroflex RF signal generator
and I'm seeing the displayed amplitude vary as it sweeps through the
range. But this only happens when I'm using a cheap, Chinese N-type to
SMA adaptor at the signal generator output. Would I be right to
suspect some imperfection in the manufacturing of the adaptor could
cause such an effect? I do have a VNA I could characterize the adaptor
with but it's a bit of an effort to do. It would seem like the SA is
showing the adaptor's shortcomings in the frequency domain. But is
that a feasible hypothesis?
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Your pal,
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CD.
 
Aren't we getting a teensy bit lazy?
 
Jeroen Belleman
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I have seen transmission (S21) losses of around 1dB at about 1.2GHz
just from failing to tighten an N connector sufficiently.
We do need to know the magnitude and frequency of the problem in
order to give helpful comments!
John
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Not really. If you just think of it as a slight impedance mismatch in
the cable between the SA and the signal generator. However, this model
has the facility to be able to save files of the screen display
(although I very much doubt it'll save a real-time video of the
sweep).
And John - it's the 'Ultra' version. I already had the base model and
this is a worthwhile upgrade.
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Ultra what? Got a link?

Mr doom, just cut theURL after the item number, like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175723143799


It is a nice box, but I stay with my RTL_SDR sticks, low freqwuency converter I have.
For that 160 dollies I have 160 / 31 = 5 of these:
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/201773887159?

I have 2 of these, but older models, running 24/7 on raspberries:
  https://www.ebay.com/itm/284834935943
   mine are 1 ppm, this seller claims .5 ppm

And wrote my own spectrum analyzer for it:
latest, now lso runs on raspberry:
 https://panteltje.nl/pub/xpsa-0.7.gif

Older version can be downloaded:
 https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xpsa/index.html

website needs updating..

Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 Sep 24 * RF Metrology21Cursitor Doom
29 Sep 24 +- Re: RF Metrology1Phil Hobbs
29 Sep 24 +- Re: RF Metrology1john larkin
29 Sep 24 +* Re: RF Metrology9Jeroen Belleman
29 Sep 24 i`* Re: RF Metrology8John R Walliker
29 Sep 24 i +* Re: RF Metrology5Cursitor Doom
29 Sep 24 i i`* Re: RF Metrology4john larkin
29 Sep 24 i i +* Re: RF Metrology2Cursitor Doom
30 Sep 24 i i i`- Re: RF Metrology1Jan Panteltje
30 Sep 24 i i `- Re: RF Metrology1Robert Roland
29 Sep 24 i `* Re: RF Metrology2Jeroen Belleman
29 Sep 24 i  `- Re: RF Metrology1john larkin
30 Sep 24 +* Re: RF Metrology2Jan Panteltje
30 Sep 24 i`- Re: RF Metrology1Cursitor Doom
6 Oct 24 `* Re: RF Metrology7Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
6 Oct 24  +- Re: RF Metrology1Cursitor Doom
6 Oct 24  `* Re: RF Metrology5john larkin
6 Oct 24   `* Re: RF Metrology4Jeroen Belleman
7 Oct 24    +- Re: RF Metrology1john larkin
8 Oct 24    `* Re: RF Metrology2legg
8 Oct 24     `- Re: RF Metrology1Jeroen Belleman

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