Re: power supply discharge

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Sujet : Re: power supply discharge
De : JL (at) *nospam* gct.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 06. Oct 2024, 15:23:52
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On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:11:21 +0100, Clive Arthur
<clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:

On 06/10/2024 01:56, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2024-09-27, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 16:17:42 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
>
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
>
Given a benchtop power supply, you can turn the voltage up and then
down, and it goes down. Most have a substantial amount of output
capacitance, and can be driving an external cap too. So something
pulls the output down.
>
I guess that there are no standards for this, but I've never seen a
supply that just hangs high when it's cranked down.
>
I'm designing some programmable multi-channel power suplies and that
is one of many tangled issues in the project.
>
A DC-coupled audio amplifier chip might work as a fully-controllable
bi-directional power supply if your current and voltage requirements
were fairly modest.  They have the advantage of being relatively cheap,
well-protected and very fast (by power supply standards).  Some of them
have the tab at input earth voltage, so they don't require isolation
from the heat sink.
>
Unfortunately, it has to be a switching regulator.
 
how is that different from a class D audio amplifier?
>
Audio doesn't go down to DC.

Audio amps are usually full-bridge, which doesn't reverse pump up the
power supply under pathological conditions, like a half-bridge can.

And loudspeakers are very inefficient so don't store much energy and
as you note don't go down to DC, again storing not much energy.

A big capacitor bank, or a battery, or a motor can store a lot of
energy, so there can be a dilemma when the load voltage is higher than
the supply setpoint.




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27 Sep 24 +* Re: power supply discharge12Liz Tuddenham
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