Re: EMC compliance question

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Sujet : Re: EMC compliance question
De : legg (at) *nospam* nospam.magma.ca (legg)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 14. Oct 2024, 17:55:25
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On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:03:48 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:

On 13/10/2024 1:21 pm, legg wrote:
On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 21:06:32 +1100, Chris Jones
<lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> wrote:
 
On 12/10/2024 6:20 am, john larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 20:59:09 +0200, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
<klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
On 10-10-2024 23:11, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 13:41:07 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
>
On 10/9/2024 4:03 PM, bitrex wrote:
>
<snip>
>
Standards have become an established method of protecting local
industry from lower cost imported goods from less socially
responsible sources.
>
Since they are published internationally, they don't protect the local
industry all that well. When I was working in England we paid attention
to the American Underwriter's Laboratory standards so we could sell our
stuff in the US.
>
It's one way of encouraging social responsibility and raising
technical awareness abroad, if you are an important market for
the products of secondary industry.
 
They try to do this with tertiary industries (financial and
service), but the weasels generally tap dance faster than
the regulators, have more money and less conscience.
 
Hence CE.
>
Americans are cynical about CE. When I was designing stuff in Europe we
did take it seriously - just as seriously as UL.

If you have a European (or any international) market, you have to
take the IEC regulations seriously - even UL's and CSA's later
standards were/are coordinated with them . . . .with national
exceptions.

Their origins are found in the old GDR VDE standards that spawned them
and the regular revisions to current IEC regs keep foreign designers
hopping.

The actual standards that CE implies are widespread, including
such features as organizational (quality and recording),
environmental (process and material) - not just safety and EMC.

These are all apparently self-declared - compliance lists and proof
 being available 'on request'.for inspection. Any product that
threatens markets seriously will be challenged - but a serious
amount of capital is transgerred just through the distribution
of consumer trash.

Asian standards similarly mimic the IEC coat hangers, but their
purpose can be almost decorative, until they are not.

RL

Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Oct 24 * EMC compliance question54bitrex
10 Oct 24 +* Re: EMC compliance question13john larkin
10 Oct 24 i`* Re: EMC compliance question12bitrex
10 Oct 24 i +* Re: EMC compliance question10john larkin
10 Oct 24 i i`* Re: EMC compliance question9Clive Arthur
10 Oct 24 i i +* Re: EMC compliance question4John R Walliker
10 Oct 24 i i i+- Re: EMC compliance question1bitrex
10 Oct 24 i i i+- Re: EMC compliance question1bitrex
10 Oct 24 i i i`- Re: EMC compliance question1john larkin
10 Oct 24 i i `* Re: EMC compliance question4john larkin
10 Oct 24 i i  +- Re: EMC compliance question1Clive Arthur
10 Oct 24 i i  +- Re: EMC compliance question1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
11 Oct 24 i i  `- Re: EMC compliance question1Bill Sloman
10 Oct 24 i `- Re: EMC compliance question1legg
10 Oct 24 `* Re: EMC compliance question40Don Y
10 Oct 24  `* Re: EMC compliance question39john larkin
11 Oct 24   +* Re: EMC compliance question12Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
11 Oct 24   i`* Re: EMC compliance question11john larkin
11 Oct 24   i +- Re: EMC compliance question1Phil Hobbs
12 Oct 24   i +- Re: EMC compliance question1Bill Sloman
12 Oct 24   i +- Re: EMC compliance question1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
12 Oct 24   i +* Re: EMC compliance question2Don Y
13 Oct 24   i i`- Re: EMC compliance question1Bill Sloman
13 Oct 24   i `* Re: EMC compliance question5legg
13 Oct 24   i  `* Re: EMC compliance question4Bill Sloman
14 Oct 24   i   `* Re: EMC compliance question3legg
14 Oct 24   i    `* Re: EMC compliance question2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
14 Oct 24   i     `- Re: EMC compliance question1Don Y
12 Oct 24   `* Re: EMC compliance question26legg
12 Oct 24    +- Re: EMC compliance question1Don Y
12 Oct 24    `* Re: EMC compliance question24Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
12 Oct 24     +* Re: EMC compliance question8Don Y
13 Oct 24     i`* Re: EMC compliance question7Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
13 Oct 24     i +* Re: EMC compliance question3Don Y
13 Oct 24     i i`* Re: EMC compliance question2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
13 Oct 24     i i `- Re: EMC compliance question1Don Y
13 Oct 24     i +- Re: EMC compliance question1john larkin
15 Oct 24     i +- Re: EMC compliance question1legg
15 Oct 24     i `- Re: EMC compliance question1legg
12 Oct 24     +* Re: EMC compliance question8john larkin
12 Oct 24     i+* Re: EMC compliance question6bitrex
12 Oct 24     ii`* Re: EMC compliance question5john larkin
13 Oct 24     ii `* Re: EMC compliance question4John R Walliker
13 Oct 24     ii  +- Re: EMC compliance question1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
13 Oct 24     ii  `* Re: EMC compliance question2john larkin
13 Oct 24     ii   `- Re: EMC compliance question1Bill Sloman
13 Oct 24     i`- Re: EMC compliance question1Bill Sloman
12 Oct 24     `* Re: EMC compliance question7Joe Gwinn
12 Oct 24      +* Re: EMC compliance question3john larkin
13 Oct 24      i`* Re: EMC compliance question2Joe Gwinn
13 Oct 24      i `- Re: EMC compliance question1Jan Panteltje
13 Oct 24      `* Re: EMC compliance question3legg
13 Oct 24       `* Re: EMC compliance question2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
13 Oct 24        `- Re: EMC compliance question1Don Y

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