Re: OT: John Kerry wants free speech "hammered out of existence"

On 19/10/2024 3:48 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 08:56:14 -0700, john larkin wrote:
 

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 21:10:58 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
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Speaking at a WEF meeting (Globalism Central) among like-minded cronies,
Kerry says he wants independent media and dissent "hammered out of
existence" and that means the First Amendment has to go. This is
blatant,
out-and-out totalitarianism reminiscent of the darkest Soviet times.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRwP4Krvreo

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Basically by definition, the Left wants to control everything; it's a
power lust thing.
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Since they assume that they understand social and economic systems, no
matter how complex, and control everything, it makes sense that they
would define dissenting theories as "disinformation" and make such
illegal.
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That dynamic is one reason that centrally-controlled economies do so
badly, and tend to kill millions.

 Quite. I just do *not* understand how this kind of warped thinking can
take root so deeply in Western countries where one would assume we'd have
learned from the horrors of Soviet Russia and Communist China and the
nightmares of the 1934 famine-by-design and the family-shattering public
denunciations of the Cultural Revolution. And you have people like Kerry
coming right out in public and admitting that they hold such views - on
the record in front of TV cameras!

Actually they, don't. John Larkin and Cursitor Doom imagine that anybody less rabidly right-wing than they are is a card-carrying communist, which is a trifle irrational.
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Unabashed Marxists and Maoists like
Kerry, Harris and Hitlary espousing this vile doctrine and essentially
admitting they want *total* control over the dissemination of information
and dissenting views "hammered out of existence."

Kerry, Harris and Hillary Clinton aren't unabashed Marxists or Maoists. They'd sue you for slander if you said it in public, and they'd win huge damages - if you could pay them. In practice neither of you has enough money to make you worth suing.
They are less right-wing than you are, but then most people are.

That's the kind of bonkers PoV that only some contemptible individual who detests freedom,
like Bill Sloman, would endorse.

Cursitor Doom and John Larkin have the bonkers point of view here. Writing off everybody less right wing than you are as unabashed Marxists and Maoist is a lunatic over-simplification.
You don't have to detest freedom to think that the right to post lies like that is stretching freedom of speech into very dangerous territory.
The first amendment lets you publish what you like, but it doesn't stop you getting sued for publishing malicious lies, or getting prosecuted for publishing dangerous and destructive propaganda.
The climate change denial propaganda to which John Larkin and Cursitor Doom is addicted is doing it's best to kill people in progressively more dramatic "natural disasters" as the CO2 level in the atmosphere keeps on creeping up.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney