Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator

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Sujet : Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator
De : jl (at) *nospam* glen--canyon.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 24. Oct 2024, 18:37:29
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 20:39:03 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:

On 24/10/2024 4:44 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:10:41 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
 
But I suspect that component tolerances and mismatched FETs will ruin it.
 
The very best bulk metal foil resistors have voltage-resistance
coefficients of a few ppm/volt. Most resistors are much worse.
>
Metal film resistors aren't all that much worse than bulk foil
resistors, and they are pretty cheap aznd widely available.
>
Just the resistors can kill distortion specs.
>
Not that you can cite an example
>
At low frequencies, self-heating and tempco can add distortion too;
>
Pull the other leg.
>
The old HP oscillators
had that effect from the lamp filament.
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The lamp filaments ran rather hotter.
>
DGMS on capacitor nonlinearity.
The capacitors and resistors would have to remarkably bad to make much
difference to a well-designed Wein bridge.
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You've already got started on making an ass of yourself about resistor
non-linearities. Making bizarre claims about capacitors is more of the same.

Gosh, you keep getting nastier and crazier every year. Your only
function now seems to be to generate childish insults aimed at most
everyone.

Here's some C-V notes. Series AC-coupling caps, or caps used in
filters, can introduce distortion too.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/akiyipqep6n67glfjhcea/ACfQ6By9LRZPKey4tgvpdDE?rlkey=is0vbs7m6xft5u9as5r8eyp30&dl=0

It's sort of outrageous that most ceramic cap data sheets specify
capacitance and voltage and hide the fact that you don't get both.

Film caps can have C-V effects too, and those can matter at PPM
distortion levels.

One could make a parametric amplifier using cap C-V effect.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Oct 24 * High purity 1kHz oscillator37Edward Rawde
22 Oct 24 +* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator7Bill Sloman
22 Oct 24 i`* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator6Edward Rawde
22 Oct 24 i +* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator4john larkin
22 Oct 24 i i+- Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator1Edward Rawde
23 Oct 24 i i+- Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator1Bill Sloman
22 Nov 24 i i`- Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator1Waldek Hebisch
23 Oct 24 i `- Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator1Bill Sloman
22 Oct 24 +* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator5Edward Rawde
23 Oct 24 i+- Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator1legg
24 Oct 24 i`* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator3Bill Sloman
24 Oct 24 i `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator2legg
25 Oct 24 i  `- Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator1Bill Sloman
23 Oct 24 +* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator15JM
24 Oct 24 i`* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator14JM
24 Oct 24 i `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator13JM
25 Oct 24 i  `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator12Bill Sloman
25 Oct 24 i   `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator11Bill Sloman
25 Oct 24 i    `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator10JM
25 Oct 24 i     `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator9JM
25 Oct 24 i      `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator8Bill Sloman
25 Oct 24 i       `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator7JM
25 Oct 24 i        `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator6Bill Sloman
25 Oct 24 i         `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator5JM
26 Oct 24 i          `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator4Bill Sloman
26 Oct 24 i           `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator3JM
26 Oct 24 i            `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator2Bill Sloman
29 Oct 24 i             `- Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator1Bill Sloman
23 Oct 24 `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator9john larkin
24 Oct 24  `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator8Bill Sloman
24 Oct 24   `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator7john larkin
24 Oct 24    +* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator5Liz Tuddenham
25 Oct 24    i`* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator4John R Walliker
25 Oct 24    i `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator3john larkin
25 Oct 24    i  `* Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator2Phil Hobbs
25 Oct 24    i   `- Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator1john larkin
25 Oct 24    `- Re: High purity 1kHz oscillator1Bill Sloman

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