Re: OT: Programming Languages

On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 15:55:02 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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On a sunny day (Sat, 02 Nov 2024 14:46:50 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom
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On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 07:42:19 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:04:21 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor
Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vg3575$3bio0$1@dont-email.me>:
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You can call me old fashioned, but I still believe there's never been a
more elegant computer language than the original K&R C. You can keep the
rest; I'll stick with that.

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Agree, I use C only and asm when needed.
I started with binary interfacing hardware...
Nothing of all of that was hard.
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BASIC was fun too, but very limiting, slow interpreted language.
but fun for simple math...
No floating point shit when doing asm .
most human relevant things can be done in 32 bit integer.
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My first computer was a Sinclair ZX80
It ran BASIC, a good BASIC.
Then I converted it to a CP/M machine, running the C80 C compiler.
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/system14/index.html
Added all sortd of I/O:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/system14/diagrams/index.html
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At work I was using the first IBM PCs..
designing ISA cards with all sort of things on it, like vector stuff,
process control, what not.
My CP/M running Z81 (by then) was faster than the IBM due to the RAMDISK I build.
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Still using C now at home and Micochip PIC asm...
No bloat today

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About 30 years ago, I bought a C compiler from Microsoft. It came in a
foot-cube box with thumping great manuals and umpteen discs. What a
pile of shit that turned out to be. It was *riddled* with bugs and the
Microsoft 'support' people were as dense as pig shit and didn't seem
to know a thing about the product. But that didn't stop them keeping
me tied up on the line racking up charges while they came up with ever
more ingenious tactics of trying to cover up how vacuous they really
were on the subject. I subsequently migrated to Borland and life got a
hell of a lot better, thankfully.

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C/80 (for Z80) was a nice C compiler
In 1998 I bought a computer magazine at the train station and it came with a CD with SLS Linux
That distro had, among other things, gcc as C compiler.
Moved to Linux right away and been using gcc ever since.
I alaready had a book on Unix, so it took just a few hours to get working in linux.
The Unix book I had bought because years earlier I worked a while at a big linear accelerator where they used those PDP things that
ran Unix.
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For work I have had to work with Microsoft stuff and C++ and what not, what a mess.
These days you can just ask AI to write the code for you?

You certainly can and many people have. Quite how good the code is
another matter, though. I have no info on that aspect but would
welcome any others may have.