Re: OT: Programming Languages

On 3/11/2024 6:30 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 09:08:36 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
 

On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 15:41:11 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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On a sunny day (Sat, 02 Nov 2024 07:55:18 -0700) it happened john larkin
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On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 07:42:19 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:04:21 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor
Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vg3575$3bio0$1@dont-email.me>:
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You can call me old fashioned, but I still believe there's never been a
more elegant computer language than the original K&R C. You can keep the
rest; I'll stick with that.

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Agree, I use C only and asm when needed.
I started with binary interfacing hardware...
Nothing of all of that was hard.
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BASIC was fun too, but very limiting, slow interpreted language.

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PowerBasic is a fabulous compiler. We did one contest, an array math
signal processing thing. I wrote it in PB, another guy in c. Mine ran
4 times as fast.  He played with the code and compiler optimiztions
for a couple of days and got it up to about 60% as fast as my PB
version.
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I used the obvious FOR loop with subscripts to scan the array. He used
pointers.
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c is really a PDP-11 assembler. In the early days of PDP-11
programming, everybody was fascinated with using pointers to wander up
and down the world, and with pushing stuff onto the stack. It shows in
c now.

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I use for example C on my PCs and the Raspberry Pis I have.
C is yery portable, libraries and open source applications everywhere.
gcc is a nice compiler that supports many architectures.
Stuff I wrote for the PC in C comp[iles and runs on the Raspberries...
This Usenet newsreader I use now I wrote in the late nineties when moving to Linux
as there was no Free Agent for Linux...
Still using it, now posting from a Pi4 8 GB.
It uses linked lists, I have a database of Usenet postings going back to these days.
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/index.html
There are some compatibility issues, but that is because the graphics library I use
had some changes, but can work around it.
More C code:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html
There is a simple 8052 assembler written in C on that webpage too.
And a z80 dissasembler .
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/index.html
etc etc
My website is basic html.
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The guy who wrote the PDP-11 assembler said that it was really a
language processor. We built several cross-assemblers as macros within
the PDP-11 assembler, including the 6800, 6802, 6803, and 68332
processors.

 Steve Gibson of grc.com is heavily into PDP-8s and his site has a good
selection of info on 'em if anyone's interested.
 

Amazingly, Digikey will still sell you a 68332.

 Price?

You could go to the Digikey website and look it up for yourself. Digikey Australia doesn't seem to stock it.
Digikey in America lists an NXP part with a similar part number, but shows it as "no longer in production".
John Larkin may be able to do better, but he didn't post a URL.
Maybe he was relying on his memory of previous purchases. Not wise at his age.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney