Re: The Venerable 741

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Sujet : Re: The Venerable 741
De : JL (at) *nospam* gct.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 04. Nov 2024, 16:21:18
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 22:24:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 11/3/2024 5:17 PM, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 11/3/24 23:10, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 11/3/24 19:07, Cursitor Doom wrote:
It's been around an awfully long time and there are far better
alternatives out there. But is there still a case for using them in
certain niche applications in 2024?
>
I've used them in power supply regulators exposed to radiation.
Being old designs and all-NPN, they're pretty rad-hard.
>
Jeroen Belleman
 
Blimey, I just checked: It isn't all-NPN! Fortunately
for me, it still kept working under irradiation...
 
Jeroen Belleman
>
Have to go back to Jim Thompson's MC1530 era to get that:
>
<http://www.elektronikjk.com/elementy_czynne/IC/MC1530-2.pdf>

He probably designed that without Spice.

The first IC opamp I tried was made by GE. All NPN, with an internal
zener in the level-shift part. It was amazingly noisy.

I designed some little baby-board opamps, all TO-92 transistors and
folded-over axial parts. By selecting some resistors we got sub 1 mV
offset and under 1 uV/degC, but it was tedious.

I still have some Philbrick opamps that I found at a flea market.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tujdcjpvv7m4b2yo8w751/Philbricks.jpg?rlkey=19ivv2tgqmqiy9ci92lgysrz7&raw=1



Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Nov 24 * The Venerable 74124Cursitor Doom
3 Nov 24 +* Re: The Venerable 7415john larkin
3 Nov 24 i+* Re: The Venerable 7413Phil Hobbs
3 Nov 24 ii`* Re: The Venerable 7412john larkin
3 Nov 24 ii `- Re: The Venerable 7411Phil Hobbs
4 Nov 24 i`- Re: The Venerable 7411bitrex
3 Nov 24 +- Re: The Venerable 7411Edward Rawde
4 Nov 24 +* Re: The Venerable 7418Jeroen Belleman
4 Nov 24 i`* Re: The Venerable 7417Jeroen Belleman
4 Nov 24 i +* Re: The Venerable 7412john larkin
4 Nov 24 i i`- Re: The Venerable 7411Jeroen Belleman
4 Nov 24 i `* Re: The Venerable 7414bitrex
4 Nov 24 i  `* Re: The Venerable 7413john larkin
4 Nov 24 i   `* Re: The Venerable 7412bitrex
4 Nov 24 i    `- Re: The Venerable 7411john larkin
4 Nov 24 +* Re: The Venerable 7418Jan Panteltje
4 Nov 24 i`* Re: The Venerable 7417Liz Tuddenham
4 Nov 24 i +- Re: The Venerable 7411Jan Panteltje
4 Nov 24 i `* Re: The Venerable 7415john larkin
5 Nov 24 i  `* Re: The Venerable 7414Cursitor Doom
6 Nov 24 i   `* Re: The Venerable 7413Bill Sloman
7 Nov 24 i    `* Re: The Venerable 7412Michael Schwingen
8 Nov 24 i     `- Re: The Venerable 7411Bill Sloman
5 Nov 24 `- Re: The Venerable 7411piglet

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