Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz

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Sujet : Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz
De : invalid (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Edward Rawde)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 04. Nov 2024, 17:46:40
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"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vga6jh$suru$1@dont-email.me...
On 4/11/2024 5:31 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 3 Nov 2024 23:06:04 -0500) it happened "Edward Rawde"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in
<vg9h7b$277o$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:
>
Simulation isn't fast but if you let it complete and do an FFT on the last 30 seconds, it's 80dB down at all unwanted
harmonics.
There do however seem to be unwanted sidebands close in either side of 1KHz
Any suggestions for improvement?
>
Publish a circuit diagram.
Not that hard to make !
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He did. The .asc file is a circuit diagram. I've looked at it and run the simulation - if only for 200 seconds rather than 300
seconds.
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The FFT says that sine wave is as good as he claims.
>
The circuit diagram  doesn't make it clear what it's various parts are there to do - it makes sense to group the components in a
way that lets somebody looking at the circuit diagram get some feel for what the components are doing.
>
And it you are using the LT1994 it makes sense to read the data sheet carefully enough to notice that the Icom pin 2 should be
bypassed with at least 100nF to ground.
>
https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/1994fb.pdf

Yes there's no way I would use a part without reading the data sheet.
Pass 1 fount the 0.1uF but I hadn't got around to adding it.
Pass 2 found that I couldn't go above +/- 6V
Pass 3 which I haven't done yet would take a lot more time and I probably won't do it because I doubt I'll be able to build this for
real.

Please see also my reply to Jan.

>
John May's circuit makes it clear that the second FET isn't strictly necessary. There are cheaper ways of getting rid of the
even-order harmonics.

Does his circuit have better performance?
Just curious, it's not a competition.

>
I've managed to dig out the precision, full wave rectifier that I used in my circuit, which is a half-wave rectifier to which you
add just enough of the full sine wave to deliver both halves of the sine wave (one of them inverted) at it's output, which calls
for a couple 10k 0.1% thin-film precision resistors on a common substrate, which you can buy off the shelf.
>
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 



Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Nov 24 * 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz64Edward Rawde
4 Nov 24 +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz62Jan Panteltje
4 Nov 24 i+* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz23Bill Sloman
4 Nov 24 ii`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz22Edward Rawde
5 Nov 24 ii `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz21Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 ii  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz20Edward Rawde
6 Nov 24 ii   +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz8Jeroen Belleman
6 Nov 24 ii   i+- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Jan Panteltje
6 Nov 24 ii   i+- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Edward Rawde
6 Nov 24 ii   i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz5john larkin
6 Nov 24 ii   i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz4Jeroen Belleman
6 Nov 24 ii   i  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz3john larkin
7 Nov 24 ii   i   `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2Jeroen Belleman
7 Nov 24 ii   i    `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1john larkin
18 Nov 24 ii   `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz11Liz Tuddenham
19 Nov 24 ii    `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz10Edward Rawde
19 Nov 24 ii     `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz9Liz Tuddenham
19 Nov 24 ii      `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz8Edward Rawde
19 Nov 24 ii       `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz7Jeroen Belleman
19 Nov 24 ii        +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Edward Rawde
19 Nov 24 ii        `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz5Joe Gwinn
19 Nov 24 ii         `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz4john larkin
19 Nov 24 ii          `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz3Joe Gwinn
20 Nov 24 ii           `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2Jan Panteltje
20 Nov 24 ii            `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Joe Gwinn
4 Nov 24 i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz38Edward Rawde
5 Nov 24 i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz37Jan Panteltje
5 Nov 24 i  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz36Edward Rawde
6 Nov 24 i   +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 i   `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz34Jan Panteltje
6 Nov 24 i    +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz20Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 i    i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz19Jan Panteltje
6 Nov 24 i    i +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2Liz Tuddenham
6 Nov 24 i    i i`- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Jan Panteltje
6 Nov 24 i    i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz16Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 i    i  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz15Liz Tuddenham
6 Nov 24 i    i   +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz13Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 i    i   i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz12Liz Tuddenham
7 Nov 24 i    i   i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz11Jan Panteltje
7 Nov 24 i    i   i  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz10Liz Tuddenham
7 Nov 24 i    i   i   `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz9Jan Panteltje
8 Nov 24 i    i   i    `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]8Liz Tuddenham
8 Nov 24 i    i   i     +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]1Jan Panteltje
8 Nov 24 i    i   i     +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]2Cursitor Doom
8 Nov 24 i    i   i     i`- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]1Liz Tuddenham
8 Nov 24 i    i   i     `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]4ehsjr
9 Nov 24 i    i   i      `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]3Liz Tuddenham
9 Nov 24 i    i   i       `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]2Jan Panteltje
9 Nov 24 i    i   i        `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]1Liz Tuddenham
6 Nov 24 i    i   `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1john larkin
6 Nov 24 i    `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz13Edward Rawde
6 Nov 24 i     +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz8john larkin
7 Nov 24 i     i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz7Liz Tuddenham
7 Nov 24 i     i +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz3Jeroen Belleman
7 Nov 24 i     i i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2Liz Tuddenham
7 Nov 24 i     i i `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Jeroen Belleman
7 Nov 24 i     i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz3john larkin
7 Nov 24 i     i  +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Bill Sloman
7 Nov 24 i     i  `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1john larkin
7 Nov 24 i     `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz4Jan Panteltje
7 Nov 24 i      +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Edward Rawde
7 Nov 24 i      `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2john larkin
7 Nov 24 i       `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Jan Panteltje
21 Nov 24 `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund

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