Re: OT: Don't let Peanut Die For Nothing

On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
 

On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
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On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
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I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance.

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Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no
way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy.

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We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
threatened to put his entire family in prison.

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It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in.
Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV
debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd
been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that. The MSM covered
for him very well. Can you imagine them doing that for Trump? This is
why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy media
nowadays and get their news from other sources. Zerohedge has run some
amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM -
but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly
white arse more than once, in fact.

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Definitely not, we'll get to watch every gory detail of the succession
crisis (and it's already happening.) The vultures are already circling.
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I've got my popcorn stocked up..

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I think you may be in luck. They'll find a way to thwart Trump and the
will of the people yet.

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Trump doesn't need much thwarting. His first term made it blindingly
obvious that he lacks the political skills to make things happen on
large scale. During the Covid-19 epidemic he made it obvious how his
intellectual defects made it difficult for him to do anything much, and
quite a few more Americans died of Covid-19 than woukd have done if he'd
been more competent.
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These bastards are utterly ruthless and will
stop at literally nothing to get their way.

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With Trump, they don't have to. He'll hang himself out to dry.
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But they're no friends of yours, either. Whatever utopia you may be dreaming
of if Trump's out of the picture, you won't find it delivered by THEM.

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Nobody's dreaming of any utopia - the word means "no place".
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"It literally translates as "no place", coming from the Greek: ??
("not") and ????? ("place"), and meant any non-existent society, when
'described in considerable detail'.
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America would probably be run better if Trump was out of the picture,
but a century of ant-union and - incidentally, but necessarily,
anti-socialist - propaganda means that it unlikely to be as well run as
most of Europe with universal health care, good education for all and
less economic inequality. The biggest improvement would probably come
from making it more difficult for billionaires to spend loads of money
on helping politicians they like.

 
Universal health care is *hugely* expensive. The only reason those
Europeans can - just about - afford it is because the US has been
paying for their defense for decades. When they finally have to pay
for their own, you can expect vicious cuts to those benefits.

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Twaddle. Universal healthcare is cheaper than what the US has - their
system costs half as much again per head as the most expensive European
systems, and doesn't work as well as the appreciably cheaper English
NHS.

It's the *UK* NHS actually - and it's barely functional in most areas
as the demands upon it from an aging population are cripplingly
expensive. Like Europe in general, it's only - just about - funded by
running a massive public sector structural debt which can never be
repaid. I believe France and Germany are in an even worse fiscal hole
at present (France in particular has a massive problem with unfunded
pension liabilities)

The vicious cuts are in the most expensive procedures - most of the
money is spent on the last eighteen months of life, and you can save a
lot by going over to palliative care somewhat earlier.

And even more by allowing voluntary euthanasia - which is currently
under discussion.

Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential
election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

 
So Trump  masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
movement? What a guy!

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There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.