Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end

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Sujet : Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end
De : rmowery42 (at) *nospam* charter.net (Ralph Mowery)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 10. Nov 2024, 15:33:05
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In article <1r2sqh1.puusef1eope1aN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>,
liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid says...
 
 
Tubes are noisy. There are MMICS with NFs below 1 dB.
 
There are quiet valves (Nuvistors) and noisy transistors (many),
engineering is a matter of chosing the right ones or using them in a way
which minimises the noise or makes it less significant in the overall
design.
 
 

Once you get above say 100 MHz the tubes that are common do not have the
noise figure of very cheap solid state devices.  A nuvistor at 150 MHz
will do good to prodce a noise figure of 3 dB.  A cheap fet like a U310
will have a noise figure of less than 2 dB and the power supply will be
much cheaper to build. Going to cheap gasfets get you to under 1 dB of
noise figure.  At this time I just do not see why anyone would want to
use tubes in a receiver above 50 MHz if they want a sensitive receiver. 

Years ago I had an Ameco receive converter for 2 meters.  It used
nuvistor tubes.  Worked fine but I put a u310 fet preamp on it and it
was noticable beter.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Nov 24 * Grounded grid VHF front-end62Liz Tuddenham
9 Nov 24 +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end36john larkin
9 Nov 24 i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end35Liz Tuddenham
9 Nov 24 i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end34Cursitor Doom
9 Nov 24 i  +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end22john larkin
9 Nov 24 i  i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end21Cursitor Doom
9 Nov 24 i  i +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end8Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i  i i+- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i  i i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 i  i i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end5Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i  i i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end4Edward Rawde
11 Nov 24 i  i i   +- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
19 Nov 24 i  i i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Waldek Hebisch
19 Nov 24 i  i i    `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
9 Nov 24 i  i +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6Joe Gwinn
10 Nov 24 i  i i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end5Dan Green
10 Nov 24 i  i i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end4john larkin
10 Nov 24 i  i i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end3Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i  i i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Ralph Mowery
10 Nov 24 i  i i    `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1john larkin
9 Nov 24 i  i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6Phil Hobbs
10 Nov 24 i  i  +- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i  i  +- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Ralph Mowery
10 Nov 24 i  i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end3piglet
10 Nov 24 i  i   +- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1john larkin
10 Nov 24 i  i   `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Cursitor Doom
9 Nov 24 i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end11Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end10john larkin
10 Nov 24 i    `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end9Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i     `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end8john larkin
10 Nov 24 i      `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end7Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i       `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6john larkin
10 Nov 24 i        +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end4Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 i        i+* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2john larkin
10 Nov 24 i        ii`- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Cursitor Doom
11 Nov 24 i        i`- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i        `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end23Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i+- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end21Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end20Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end19Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end18Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i    +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end3Cursitor Doom
11 Nov 24 i    i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Jan Panteltje
11 Nov 24 i    i `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Cursitor Doom
17 Nov 24 i    `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end14Waldek Hebisch
17 Nov 24 i     `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end13Jan Panteltje
17 Nov 24 i      `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end12Waldek Hebisch
17 Nov 24 i       +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6Jan Panteltje
17 Nov 24 i       i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end5Waldek Hebisch
18 Nov 24 i       i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end4Jan Panteltje
18 Nov 24 i       i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end3Waldek Hebisch
18 Nov 24 i       i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Jan Panteltje
18 Nov 24 i       i    `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Waldek Hebisch
17 Nov 24 i       `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end5john larkin
17 Nov 24 i        +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2JM
17 Nov 24 i        i`- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1john larkin
18 Nov 24 i        `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Waldek Hebisch
19 Nov 24 i         `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1john larkin
11 Nov 24 `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2brian
11 Nov 24  `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Liz Tuddenham

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