Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end

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Sujet : Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end
De : liz (at) *nospam* poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 10. Nov 2024, 20:33:39
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john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 16:03:25 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
[...]

The point I was making about grounded-grid operation is that the input
impedance of the valve is very nearly the characteristic impedance of
the co-ax (voltage ratio 3:2 for a triode-strapped EF91 drawing 6mA from
a 200V HT line).   A Pi network or a 3:2 winding on a ferrite core could
be used to match them
 
A tuned circuit into the grid has voltage gain,

It's about power noise and power gain, not voltage noise and voltage
gain., a tuned circuit doesn't have power gain.  At lower impedances the
noise voltage and the signal voltage are reduced equally so the S/N
power ratio isn't altered.  Matching the feeder and aerial impedance to
the circuit impedance is what matters, that wsy you get maximum signal
power transfer.

Grounded grid circuits were common above 150 Mc/s and gave good S/N
ratios, the reason they weren't much used below that frequency was
because specialised valves in conventional circuits could do the job
adequately.  I am trying to push a general purpose valve to do the job
of a specialised one.  (Like a BC109 being used as a VHF oscillator - it
can work if you get it right!)

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~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Nov 24 * Grounded grid VHF front-end62Liz Tuddenham
9 Nov 24 +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end36john larkin
9 Nov 24 i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end35Liz Tuddenham
9 Nov 24 i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end34Cursitor Doom
9 Nov 24 i  +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end22john larkin
9 Nov 24 i  i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end21Cursitor Doom
9 Nov 24 i  i +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end8Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i  i i+- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i  i i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 i  i i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end5Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i  i i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end4Edward Rawde
11 Nov 24 i  i i   +- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
19 Nov 24 i  i i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Waldek Hebisch
19 Nov 24 i  i i    `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
9 Nov 24 i  i +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6Joe Gwinn
10 Nov 24 i  i i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end5Dan Green
10 Nov 24 i  i i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end4john larkin
10 Nov 24 i  i i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end3Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i  i i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Ralph Mowery
10 Nov 24 i  i i    `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1john larkin
9 Nov 24 i  i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6Phil Hobbs
10 Nov 24 i  i  +- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i  i  +- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Ralph Mowery
10 Nov 24 i  i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end3piglet
10 Nov 24 i  i   +- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1john larkin
10 Nov 24 i  i   `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Cursitor Doom
9 Nov 24 i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end11Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end10john larkin
10 Nov 24 i    `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end9Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i     `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end8john larkin
10 Nov 24 i      `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end7Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 i       `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6john larkin
10 Nov 24 i        +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end4Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 i        i+* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2john larkin
10 Nov 24 i        ii`- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Cursitor Doom
11 Nov 24 i        i`- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i        `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Liz Tuddenham
10 Nov 24 +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end23Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i+- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end21Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end20Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end19Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end18Jan Panteltje
10 Nov 24 i    +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end3Cursitor Doom
11 Nov 24 i    i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Jan Panteltje
11 Nov 24 i    i `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Cursitor Doom
17 Nov 24 i    `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end14Waldek Hebisch
17 Nov 24 i     `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end13Jan Panteltje
17 Nov 24 i      `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end12Waldek Hebisch
17 Nov 24 i       +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end6Jan Panteltje
17 Nov 24 i       i`* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end5Waldek Hebisch
18 Nov 24 i       i `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end4Jan Panteltje
18 Nov 24 i       i  `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end3Waldek Hebisch
18 Nov 24 i       i   `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Jan Panteltje
18 Nov 24 i       i    `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Waldek Hebisch
17 Nov 24 i       `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end5john larkin
17 Nov 24 i        +* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2JM
17 Nov 24 i        i`- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1john larkin
18 Nov 24 i        `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2Waldek Hebisch
19 Nov 24 i         `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1john larkin
11 Nov 24 `* Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end2brian
11 Nov 24  `- Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end1Liz Tuddenham

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