Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator

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Sujet : Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 20. Nov 2024, 03:29:37
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On 20/11/2024 12:59 pm, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vhibce$1t7v2$1@dont-email.me...
On 18/11/2024 2:58 pm, Edward Rawde wrote:
"JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:n7iijjdeqecl0kmub0bq5in0dbm60m7qam@4ax.com...
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:14:28 -0500, "Edward Rawde"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
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"JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com...
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:43:41 -0500, "Edward Rawde"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
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I've taken John May seriously, and reworked my phase shift oscillator to use three op amps, all with their non-inverting inputs
tied to ground.
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The results aren't all that impressive, the lower harmonics are about 65dB below the fundamental. Start-up is slow - it takes
about five seconds of simulation before the circuit settles down into steady state operation, and that after I dropped the
integrating capacitor from 6.8uF to 680nF. The nice thing about the circuit is that I can explain what each bit is doing. I can
see a few tweaks that might be worth trying.
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 The simulation died after 3 seconds, as if insufficient gain to sustain oscillation.
The circuit starts off by reducing gain. I think I can do something about that.

You seem to have a lot of components.
But I know what they all do.

Are you sure you really need all those ferrites?
No, but they are cheap, and op amps injecting hash into the power rails are never a good idea. Power supply rejection drops with frequency, and U1 in particular pulls spikes of current from the power rails twice per cycle.

Here's my really definitely final final offering.
 A comfortable 90dB down at 2kHz and > 100 dB elsewhere.
Also looks clean either side of 1kHz.
Whether or not this has anything to do with reality I do not know.
The diode stabilizer string will be temperature dependent,
requiring readjustment of R4 and a total of three adjustments are needed.
Only three op amps (two packages) are needed.
I'll take a look at it.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
8 Nov 24 * Final final 1kHz oscillator59Edward Rawde
9 Nov 24 +* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator16Bill Sloman
9 Nov 24 i+* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator14Edward Rawde
9 Nov 24 ii`* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator13Bill Sloman
9 Nov 24 ii +- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Edward Rawde
10 Nov 24 ii `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator11Edward Rawde
10 Nov 24 ii  `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator10Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 ii   +- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Edward Rawde
10 Nov 24 ii   `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator8Edward Rawde
10 Nov 24 ii    `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator7Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 ii     `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator6Cursitor Doom
10 Nov 24 ii      `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator5Cursitor Doom
11 Nov 24 ii       `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator4Edward Rawde
11 Nov 24 ii        +* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator2Edward Rawde
11 Nov 24 ii        i`- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Cursitor Doom
11 Nov 24 ii        `- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Joe Gwinn
9 Nov 24 i`- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Cursitor Doom
14 Nov 24 `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator42JM
14 Nov 24  +- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1JM
14 Nov 24  `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator40Edward Rawde
15 Nov 24   +* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator6Bill Sloman
15 Nov 24   i+* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator2Edward Rawde
15 Nov 24   ii`- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Bill Sloman
16 Nov 24   i+- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Bill Sloman
16 Nov 24   i`* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator2Bill Sloman
18 Nov 24   i `- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Edward Rawde
17 Nov 24   `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator33JM
18 Nov 24    +* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator29Edward Rawde
19 Nov 24    i+- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Bill Sloman
19 Nov 24    i`* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator27Bill Sloman
20 Nov 24    i `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator26Edward Rawde
20 Nov 24    i  +* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator21Bill Sloman
20 Nov 24    i  i`* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator20Bill Sloman
20 Nov 24    i  i `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator19Edward Rawde
20 Nov 24    i  i  `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator18Bill Sloman
22 Nov 24    i  i   `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator17Bill Sloman
22 Nov 24    i  i    `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator16Edward Rawde
23 Nov 24    i  i     +* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator14Bill Sloman
23 Nov 24    i  i     i+* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator12Edward Rawde
23 Nov 24    i  i     ii`* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator11Bill Sloman
23 Nov 24    i  i     ii `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator10Edward Rawde
24 Nov 24    i  i     ii  +- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1ehsjr
24 Nov 24    i  i     ii  `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator8Bill Sloman
24 Nov 24    i  i     ii   `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator7Edward Rawde
25 Nov 24    i  i     ii    `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator6Bill Sloman
26 Nov 24    i  i     ii     `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator5Bill Sloman
27 Nov 24    i  i     ii      +- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Edward Rawde
27 Nov 24    i  i     ii      `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator3JM
27 Nov 24    i  i     ii       `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator2Bill Sloman
28 Nov 24    i  i     ii        `- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Edward Rawde
23 Nov 24    i  i     i`- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Edward Rawde
23 Nov 24    i  i     `- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Bill Sloman
20 Nov 24    i  `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator4JM
20 Nov 24    i   +- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1JM
21 Nov 24    i   `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator2Edward Rawde
21 Nov 24    i    `- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1Edward Rawde
20 Nov 24    `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator3john larkin
20 Nov 24     `* Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator2Phil Hobbs
27 Nov 24      `- Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator1John R Walliker

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