Re: Curve Tracers

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Sujet : Re: Curve Tracers
De : cd999666 (at) *nospam* notformail.com (Cursitor Doom)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 21. Nov 2024, 00:30:04
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 18:46:03 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs wrote:

Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 07:40:08 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
 
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 11:32:32 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
 
Gentlemen,
 
Curve tracers reveal useful info about the dynamic characteristics of
semiconductors and make designing for same much more predictable and
dependable than relying on spice models and simulation alone. But
they're typically rare beasts and expensive to come by and boat
anchor varieties are seriously heavy and bulky.
I think therefore that a curve tracer would make an excellent
project, using the X&Y inputs of a scope as the display. Has anyone
here attempted this? I'd be interested to know what the main
challenges are likely to be.
 
-CD
 
I've considered it. It would be much more valuable if it traced
capacitances too.
 
The display should be on a computer and the data archived.
 
I often just set up a breadboard and test parts. Last week I blew out
some power mosfet gates. Some have internal zeners; this one doesn't.
 
Most mosfets drain avalanche, but the voltage is never specified, in
fact deliberately hidden. I have to measure that.  A good curve tracer
should measure that too.
 
Currents should go down to picoamps.
 
The fact that there aren't many curve tracers for sale suggests a
small market.
 
I think that the function is now done by a Fluke Data Bucket (or
equivalent) in an ATE (Automatic Test Equipment) that controls
collection of data, which is later plotted in a computer.
 
Joe Gwinn
 
 
Nah, real men use an HP 4145B.  Exceptionally Good Medicine.
 
Cheers

Great choice, Phil! You can't go wrong with a boat anchor and what you
have there is about the most modern CT it's possible to own which you can
still repair for yourself if necessary. I doff my cap to you, sir.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
20 Nov 24 * Curve Tracers42Cursitor Doom
20 Nov 24 +- Re: Curve Tracers1Bill Sloman
20 Nov 24 +- Re: Curve Tracers1Jan Panteltje
20 Nov 24 +* Re: Curve Tracers27john larkin
20 Nov 24 i+* Re: Curve Tracers9bitrex
20 Nov 24 ii`* Re: Curve Tracers8john larkin
20 Nov 24 ii `* Re: Curve Tracers7bitrex
20 Nov 24 ii  +* Re: Curve Tracers3john larkin
20 Nov 24 ii  i`* Re: Curve Tracers2Cursitor Doom
20 Nov 24 ii  i `- Re: Curve Tracers1john larkin
20 Nov 24 ii  `* Re: Curve Tracers3Cursitor Doom
20 Nov 24 ii   +- Re: Curve Tracers1bitrex
20 Nov 24 ii   `- Re: Curve Tracers1john larkin
20 Nov 24 i+* Re: Curve Tracers5Joe Gwinn
20 Nov 24 ii`* Re: Curve Tracers4Phil Hobbs
20 Nov 24 ii +* Re: Curve Tracers2Joe Gwinn
20 Nov 24 ii i`- Re: Curve Tracers1Phil Hobbs
21 Nov 24 ii `- Re: Curve Tracers1Cursitor Doom
20 Nov 24 i`* Re: Curve Tracers12Cursitor Doom
20 Nov 24 i `* Re: Curve Tracers11john larkin
20 Nov 24 i  +- Re: Curve Tracers1Phil Hobbs
21 Nov 24 i  `* Re: Curve Tracers9Cursitor Doom
21 Nov 24 i   `* Re: Curve Tracers8john larkin
21 Nov 24 i    `* Re: Curve Tracers7Cursitor Doom
21 Nov 24 i     +* Re: Curve Tracers5john larkin
22 Nov 24 i     i`* Re: Curve Tracers4Cursitor Doom
22 Nov 24 i     i `* Re: Curve Tracers3john larkin
22 Nov 24 i     i  `* Re: Curve Tracers2Cursitor Doom
23 Nov 24 i     i   `- Re: Curve Tracers1Bill Sloman
22 Nov 24 i     `- Re: Curve Tracers1Bill Sloman
20 Nov 24 +* Re: Curve Tracers8bitrex
20 Nov 24 i+- Re: Curve Tracers1Cursitor Doom
20 Nov 24 i`* Re: Curve Tracers6john larkin
21 Nov 24 i +* Re: Curve Tracers2Arie de Muijnck
21 Nov 24 i i`- Re: Curve Tracers1john larkin
22 Nov 24 i +- Re: Curve Tracers1bitrex
24 Nov 24 i `* Re: Curve Tracers2albert
24 Nov 24 i  `- Re: Curve Tracers1Jeroen Belleman
20 Nov 24 +- Re: Curve Tracers1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
21 Nov 24 +- Re: Curve Tracers1Cursitor Doom
22 Nov 24 `* Re: Curve Tracers2chrisq
22 Nov 24  `- Re: Curve Tracers1john larkin

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