Re: Datasheet-flation?

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Sujet : Re: Datasheet-flation?
De : robin_listas (at) *nospam* es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 26. Nov 2024, 14:07:48
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On 2024-11-25 14:01, Don Y wrote:
On 11/25/2024 5:08 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-11-25 04:19, Don Y wrote:
On 11/24/2024 7:41 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
We use a mixed language (Spain).
>
I thought there were *several*.  Or, are these "nonofficial"
or simply treated as dialects?
>
True, there are several (each one official in their regions,
 Really?  That level of recognition?  Not just "tolerated" as a local
version?
 E.g., if you went to a gummit agency in Region A to apply for a service,
license, etc. and, some time later, moved to another region -- B.  Would
you have to interact with those officials in the official language
of that new region?
In theory, they all have also to handle Spanish.

 [ISTR Quebec requires the use of French in all official transactions?]
 I.e., do regions fiercely defend their "personalities" and make an
effort to coerce such use?  Or, is it just a formality that is
often overlooked?
Depends... some are more fierce than others, and also depends on who won the last election :-)
For example, you know that there are many distributions of Linux. Well, some of these regionalities did their own distributions, properly translated to their language. Or, they funded translators that submitted their translations upstream.
They may be better (more complete) translated than to Spanish itself.

 E.g., here (US), certain official documents (like ballots) must be offered
in specific languages to address the needs of those constituents.  And, as
they are "official", there can be little room for translation errors/
 By contrast, if you spoke Castilian Spanish to a Mexican, here, they
likely (?) would understand your meaning.  In a formal (court-of-law)
setting, they may be able to lean on technicalities of differences
beyond pronunciation characteristics (e.g., cerveza)
Right.

 
and Spanish in all), but the point I live at it is only Spanish. Other regions are bilingual;
 And, presumably, there, people are "fluent" in each?
Not everybody, but yes.

 
but if they are programmers they probably use a mixture of English and the local language. Documentation is often in English, and even when not, the most recent version of the docs is in English usually. Unless the software you are using originated in non English country.
 I've seen software internals that contained a lot of non-english.
Choices of variable names, ("what the hell is a 'puntero'?"),
blocks of commentary to explain the function's purpose, etc.  Some
of these things are easy to just "accept" -- after all, an identifier
is just a collection of characters used as a symbolic reference.
 But, it has an amazing impact (to the detriment) on comprehension!
Instead of trying to understand the code, you are trying to understand
the actual *words*!
 It made me wonder how folks with other native tongues can adapt to
the prevalence of English in such uses!  And, how that affects their
code...
My own code can be in Spanglish :-p
--
Cheers, Carlos.

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