Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma

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De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
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Date : 01. Dec 2024, 11:31:44
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On 1/12/2024 6:00 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 1 Dec 2024 14:13:55 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vigk9v$22pt7$3@dont-email.me>:
 
On 1/12/2024 12:45 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 1 Dec 2024 00:12:31 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vif30a$1o4ji$1@dont-email.me>:
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On 30/11/2024 10:11 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:02:25 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vienrs$1l2a8$1@dont-email.me>:
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On 30/11/2024 5:37 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Nov 2024 14:12:42 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vidvrl$1d62d$1@dont-email.me>:
On 30/11/2024 2:27 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Nov 2024 01:15:15 +1100) it happened Bill Slowman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vici9s$13umg$1@dont-email.me>:
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On 30/11/2024 12:00 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
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Well, we have global warming in case humans fail.
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It's anthropogenic global warming. If we stop digging up fossil carbon
and burning it, that extra warmth will go away eventually - but it is
likely to take a few centuries.
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Or we can dig deep enough into the ground for some heat.
But the question remains if you CAN make break even - get positive energy out
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fusion
endless babble about Albert E...
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But, my solar panels work great!
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But they rely on that big fusion reactor hanging there in the middle of
the solar system. It's been there for about 4.5 billion years. Nobody
realised that it was nuclear fusion reactor until quite recently, and
the message still doesn't seem to have got through to you.
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Oh well, and the sun will burn up eventually or so I'v read.
Not so much is known about the inner nuclear workings of the sun.
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Quite a lot is known, if not by you.
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Is the fusion part caused by enormous pressures from the rest of the sun?
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It's temperature rather than  pressure that makes the difference.
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It does not have to be break even or positive at all.
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Of course it has to. Gravitational compression created the pressure and
the heat that eventually started the nuclear reaction. It takes about
100,000 years for a photon from the reacting core of the sum to make it
out to emerge as sunlight.
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I will not even mention Le Sage (oops) and possible other theories
dark matter, what not.
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That's a relief. You mostly ventilate your idiocies non-stop.
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Would be nice if we could look ahead a few thousand years to see the theories then.
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Not really. We wouldn't understand them.
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If humanity still exists, Dinos ?
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Most species last about 10 million years. We might completely wreck the
earth and kill ourselves off in the process, but we've survived several
ice-age to interglacial transitions.
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We are just like ants, a few neurons wanting - looking for - a theory of everything.
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Just a bit bigger than ants, with rather more technology.
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And yet, everything is connected...
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Another one of your mindless assertions.
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There is nothing you can know that is not known:
   https://www.thebeatles.com/all-you-need-love-0
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There is plenty you can "know" that isn't known to other people.
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You produce more nonsense than most, and most of what you think you know
strikes other people as largely unoriginal nonsense.
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"It does not have to be break even or positive at all."
 Well since you have not designed build and published even a picture of something as simple as a flashlight here
logic suggest possible jealousy or 'grootheidswaanzin'
You haven't been paying attention, or perhaps you can't plug the text version of an LTSpice .asc file into LTSpice.

But then so did Einstein, he never did an experiment in his life and his only design was a bad Fridge.
It was a perfectly okay fridge, for some unusual applications. Theoreticians don't do experiments, and the Pauli Effect suggests that they stop experiments from working. Wolfgang Pauli and Pqul Dirac didn't do any experiments either, and that didn't stop them from being almost as famous as Einstein.

Him being youwish made him their hero, god almost, as he wrote that letter to suggest committing genocide on Japanese civilians with nukes.
Don't be silly. His letter - with Leo Silzard - to Roosevelt didn't have anything to say about using the atom bomb. It just pointed out that such a bomb was possible, and that Germany might be working on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%E2%80%93Szilard_letter

His squared lightbulb masses are the biggest obstacle to science advancing as are global warming witch hunts.
In  your demented opinion.

Look at fusion like a spring
A srping can be compressed and drive a clock or a toy car
But it never will power anything by itself.
There will always be a net loss between compression and using it to do something.
Table top will confirm that (Farnsworth Fusor).
Looking up during the day confirms something rather different.

ITER has confirmed that, but misguided politicians keep falling for the einstein brainwashed,
pooring in ever more money for no result at all.. EVER.
ITER hasn't done anything yet. The Joint European Torus in England worked well enough to demonstrate that ITER was worth doing.

ITER will always ask for bigger and more.
It seems the most likely outcome. We wouldn't have invested in it if it wasn't. Of course if they found a reason why a bigger torus won't actually deliver the goods, they would report that too. That's why people do scientific experiments.

Sure some suppliers of magnets and what not now make a living from your tax money there..
Not my tax money. I live in Australia and pay my taxes to the Australian government

At the same time US agents like Germany's Merkel killed the real power generating nuclear plants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_nuclear_accident

Human species... decline, dark ages repeating itself, dummies produced by the millions
zero understanding mamaticians doing a divide by zero, multiple uni-verses (do they sing there).
Evolution does produce a lot more duds than successes. You seem to be one of them.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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29 Nov 24 * New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma43Jan Panteltje
29 Nov 24 +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma41Bill Sloman
29 Nov 24 i`* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma40Jan Panteltje
29 Nov 24 i +- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Liz Tuddenham
29 Nov 24 i +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma29Jeroen Belleman
29 Nov 24 i i+* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma3john larkin
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29 Nov 24 i ii `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1john larkin
29 Nov 24 i i+* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma24Liz Tuddenham
29 Nov 24 i ii`* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma23Jeroen Belleman
29 Nov 24 i ii `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma22Liz Tuddenham
29 Nov 24 i ii  `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma21Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii   +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma6john larkin
30 Nov 24 i ii   i`* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma5Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii   i `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma4john larkin
30 Nov 24 i ii   i  `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma3Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii   i   `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2john larkin
1 Dec 24 i ii   i    `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i ii   `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma14Liz Tuddenham
30 Nov 24 i ii    `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma13Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii     `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma12john larkin
30 Nov 24 i ii      `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma11Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii       `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma10john larkin
30 Nov 24 i ii        +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma8Jeroen Belleman
1 Dec 24 i ii        i+* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2john larkin
1 Dec 24 i ii        ii`- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Bill Sloman
1 Dec 24 i ii        i`* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma5Joe Gwinn
1 Dec 24 i ii        i +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2Jeroen Belleman
1 Dec 24 i ii        i i`- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Joe Gwinn
1 Dec 24 i ii        i `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2john larkin
1 Dec 24 i ii        i  `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Joe Gwinn
1 Dec 24 i ii        `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i i`- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Jan Panteltje
30 Nov 24 i `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma9Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i  `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma8Jan Panteltje
30 Nov 24 i   `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma7Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i    `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma6Jan Panteltje
30 Nov 24 i     `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma5Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i      `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma4Jan Panteltje
1 Dec 24 i       `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma3Bill Sloman
1 Dec 24 i        `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2Jan Panteltje
1 Dec 24 i         `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Bill Sloman
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