Re: Dutch-like language [OT]

On 2024-12-04 13:24, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
 

Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
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On a sunny day (Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:59:22 +0000) it happened
liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote in
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Last night in the 80-metre band I heard two 'hams' talking.  The vowel
sounds of their voices seemed to be characteristically Dutch (an accent
like the Groningen area) but the language was completely
incomprehensible.  I listened for several minutes but didn't hear a
single word I recognised
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Do any of our Dutch contributors know of some dialect that is Dutch in
sound but does not use the standard Dutch language?
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[I tried to send this to Jan by e-mail but the address I found for him
on the Web just bounced.]

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There is the Frisian (Fries) language, spoken west of Groningen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Frisian_language
And Gronings
And Drents:

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I have listened to the Wikipedia recordings of Fries and Gronings (there
doesn't seem to be one of Drents).  Fries doesn't seem to have the
frequency of typically Dutch pronunciation of the G and CH sounds that i
heard in the QSO.  Gronings had those sounds but many of the words are
just slightly eccented standard Dutch words which weren't in the QSO.
The mystery remains, so if I hear that language again, I shall have to
record it.
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Have not listened to 80 meter for a long time, much local noise here.

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It was like that here until I put a really good (3-wire inductive) mains
filter right against the input to the receiver and then solidly earthed
the receiver chassis with an independent earthing system of heavy wire
soldered to spaced earth rods, using a blowlamp.
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Is there a Dutch version of Yiddish?

 I thought Yiddish was an international language rather like Esperanto.
The language I heard didn't seem to have any of the characteristics I
associate with Yiddish.
 

There's apparently a Portuguese version called (roughly) Lada~o, which sounds like Portuguese but is unintelligible to most Portuguese speakers.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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