Re: dumping a lot of heat

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Sujet : Re: dumping a lot of heat
De : jl (at) *nospam* glen--canyon.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 09. Dec 2024, 03:04:10
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:32:33 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
>
I'm thinking about building a biggish rackmount dummy load box. It
would simulate series resistance and inductance. Part of the problem
is that it will need to dump a lot of heat.
 
We are using copper CPU coolers on PC boards, which are great up to a
couple of hundred watts, but I'd like to do a kilowatt or two.
 
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P945
 
It would take a heap of expensive extruded heat sinks and fans to get
rid of a kilowatt. At 1 K/W, a pretty good heat sink, that's 1000 degC
temp rise.
 
A small hair dryer can dump a kilowatt. So some sort of red-hot
nichrome coils and a vicious fan might work.
 
I'd prefer to not use water.
 
I wonder if there is some sort of runs-red-hot power resistor.
>
Cooker hob ring?
>

What's that in American ??!!


I once used three industrial fan heaters as the starting resistor for a
large 3-phase motor with a big inertial load.  They were wired in delta
but connected to the star point of the motor - an arrangement which gave
the required starting current and torque.  After a predetermined time, a
normal 3-phase contactor shorted them out and closed the star point,
allowing the motor to run up to full speed.  The system worked
flawlessly, up to 8 times a day, for several years.

This looks like junk

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B8NY03G?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

but the price is right. I didn't understand it, so I got one, and I
still don't understand it.

The heater element has four faston lugs: one common, two resistors
each 22 ohms to common, one n/c.

The wires and thermal link are mysteries to me.

But something like this with a squirrel-cage blower behind it would be
slick. (or a hedgehog or a platypus blower.)


Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Dec 24 * dumping a lot of heat58john larkin
4 Dec 24 +* Re: dumping a lot of heat5Joe Gwinn
6 Dec 24 i`* Re: dumping a lot of heat4Lasse Langwadt
6 Dec 24 i `* Re: dumping a lot of heat3Joe Gwinn
7 Dec 24 i  `* Re: dumping a lot of heat2Lasse Langwadt
8 Dec 24 i   `- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Joe Gwinn
4 Dec 24 +- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Arie de Muijnck
4 Dec 24 +* Re: dumping a lot of heat5Liz Tuddenham
9 Dec 24 i`* Re: dumping a lot of heat4john larkin
9 Dec 24 i +- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Liz Tuddenham
9 Dec 24 i `* Re: dumping a lot of heat2ehsjr
9 Dec 24 i  `- Re: dumping a lot of heat1john larkin
5 Dec 24 +* Re: dumping a lot of heat3Martin Rid
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6 Dec 24 i `- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Martin Rid
5 Dec 24 +- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Jan Panteltje
5 Dec 24 +* Re: dumping a lot of heat35Liz Tuddenham
5 Dec 24 i+* Re: dumping a lot of heat26legg
5 Dec 24 ii+* Re: dumping a lot of heat2john larkin
6 Dec 24 iii`- Re: dumping a lot of heat1KevinJ93
5 Dec 24 ii`* Re: dumping a lot of heat23Liz Tuddenham
7 Dec 24 ii `* Re: dumping a lot of heat22legg
7 Dec 24 ii  `* Re: dumping a lot of heat21john larkin
8 Dec 24 ii   +- Re: dumping a lot of heat1legg
8 Dec 24 ii   `* Re: dumping a lot of heat19Liz Tuddenham
8 Dec 24 ii    +* Re: dumping a lot of heat4Phil Hobbs
8 Dec 24 ii    i`* Re: dumping a lot of heat3john larkin
8 Dec 24 ii    i +- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Liz Tuddenham
8 Dec 24 ii    i `- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Phil Hobbs
8 Dec 24 ii    `* Re: dumping a lot of heat14Jan Panteltje
8 Dec 24 ii     `* Re: dumping a lot of heat13Liz Tuddenham
8 Dec 24 ii      +* Re: dumping a lot of heat9john larkin
8 Dec 24 ii      i`* Re: dumping a lot of heat8Liz Tuddenham
8 Dec 24 ii      i `* Re: dumping a lot of heat7john larkin
8 Dec 24 ii      i  +* Re: dumping a lot of heat5Liz Tuddenham
8 Dec 24 ii      i  i`* Re: dumping a lot of heat4john larkin
9 Dec 24 ii      i  i `* Re: dumping a lot of heat3Liz Tuddenham
9 Dec 24 ii      i  i  `* Re: dumping a lot of heat2john larkin
9 Dec 24 ii      i  i   `- Re: dumping a lot of heat1ehsjr
9 Dec 24 ii      i  `- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Jan Panteltje
9 Dec 24 ii      `* Re: dumping a lot of heat3Jan Panteltje
9 Dec 24 ii       `* Re: dumping a lot of heat2Liz Tuddenham
9 Dec 24 ii        `- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Jan Panteltje
5 Dec 24 i`* Re: dumping a lot of heat8john larkin
5 Dec 24 i `* Re: dumping a lot of heat7Liz Tuddenham
6 Dec 24 i  `* Re: dumping a lot of heat6John R Walliker
6 Dec 24 i   `* Re: dumping a lot of heat5Liz Tuddenham
6 Dec 24 i    `* Re: dumping a lot of heat4john larkin
6 Dec 24 i     +* Re: dumping a lot of heat2Liz Tuddenham
7 Dec 24 i     i`- Re: dumping a lot of heat1john larkin
7 Dec 24 i     `- Re: dumping a lot of heat1Jan Panteltje
5 Dec 24 +* Re: dumping a lot of heat2legg
5 Dec 24 i`- Re: dumping a lot of heat1john larkin
7 Dec 24 +* Re: dumping a lot of heat2Hul Tytus
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8 Dec 24 +* Re: dumping a lot of heat2Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
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