Re: Win11 explorer bug?

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Sujet : Re: Win11 explorer bug?
De : blockedofcourse (at) *nospam* foo.invalid (Don Y)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 12. Dec 2024, 18:34:44
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On 12/12/2024 8:08 AM, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message news:vjennd$24vi6$1@dont-email.me...
On 12/12/2024 5:47 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-12-12 12:00, Don Y wrote:
Yeah, I'm REALLY eager to turn on the factory's WiFi interface
for the stove/oven... NOT!
>
There are devices that put the actual interface on the phone, via WiFi. The physical interface has a reduced set of features.
>
Yes.  Via a server located at the manufacturer's facility!
>
So, you have the application layer in the appliance, the network stack in the
appliance, all of the network infrastructure from your AP to the manufacturer's
server, then, back through the phone network, up through the stack in your
phone and, finally, through the app to the display.
 I hate this too.
I'm resistant to cameras which bounce off the manufacturer's server, which could be anywhere.
Also meaning subject to the laws of different countries (based on its
siting).
Is there any reason the camera can't talk to a phone that is also
hosted by the customer's access point?
If you want to let the camera access a phone that is NOT "local",
then let the user subscribe to a DynDNS service -- provided by
any number of competing firms (even the manufacturer -- via a nice
clean OPEN interface).
E.g., that data, passing through the server, is no longer under
YOUR control.  And, can be monetized without your compensation.
This is possible with ANY device that passes through an unnecessary
server.  (Your smart thermostat knows when you are home, when
you are "active", etc.)

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9 Dec 24 * Win11 explorer bug?58john larkin
9 Dec 24 +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?50Martin Brown
9 Dec 24 i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?49john larkin
10 Dec 24 i `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?48Martin Brown
10 Dec 24 i  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?47john larkin
10 Dec 24 i   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?46Martin Brown
10 Dec 24 i    `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?45john larkin
10 Dec 24 i     `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?44Martin Brown
10 Dec 24 i      `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?43john larkin
10 Dec 24 i       `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?42Martin Brown
11 Dec 24 i        `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?41john larkin
11 Dec 24 i         `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?40Martin Brown
11 Dec 24 i          +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
11 Dec 24 i          `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?38john larkin
12 Dec 24 i           `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?37Martin Brown
12 Dec 24 i            +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?35Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            i+* Re: Win11 explorer bug?26Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?25Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii i`- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?10Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            ii i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?9Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii i `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?8Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            ii i  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?7Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii i   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?6Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            ii i    `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?5Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii i     `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?4Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii i      `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii i       `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii i        `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?12Jeroen Belleman
12 Dec 24 i            ii  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?11Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?10Joe Gwinn
12 Dec 24 i            ii    +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii    `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?8Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii     +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii     `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?6Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii      `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?5Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii       `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?4Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii        `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii         +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii         `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?8john larkin
12 Dec 24 i            i +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            i i+- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            i i`- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Joe Gwinn
13 Dec 24 i            i `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?4Martin Brown
13 Dec 24 i            i  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            i   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2john larkin
13 Dec 24 i            i    `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1john larkin
12 Dec 24 i            `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1john larkin
9 Dec 24 +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Joe Gwinn
9 Dec 24 i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2john larkin
9 Dec 24 i `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Joe Gwinn
9 Dec 24 +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Edward Rawde
9 Dec 24 `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Martin Rid
9 Dec 24  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2Jeroen Belleman
11 Dec 24   `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Carlos E.R.

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