Re: Win11 explorer bug?

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Sujet : Re: Win11 explorer bug?
De : jl (at) *nospam* glen--canyon.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 12. Dec 2024, 22:09:36
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:00:23 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

On 12/12/2024 2:59 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
Probably because it is *so* bug.
(typo for big but Freudian slip seems OK)
>
Once something becomes "complex" (i.e., too large to fit in a
single brain), it becomes difficult to understand the repercussions
of specific design decisions -- because you can't remember
EVERYTHING with which they interact.

Engineers design giant systrems - cars, airplanes, bridges, buildings
- with lots of parts, and nobody understands all the parts. And they
work first time.

Software is different, and it never works first time. Most programs
don't even compile first try.

I could probably code a "Hello, world!" program that would run first
try.

>
[This is why big pieces of software are shit.  For "efficiency"
(and lack of design vision), everything gets dropped into one
big executable.  This is the norm for Windows, Android, etc.
By contrast, in UN*X, one would plumb existing applications
together to meet some new need -- instead of folding the new
functionality into that one big app!]
>
We have a stove/oven that has the ideal universal interface
(in the mind of some idiot):   a big knob as SELECTOR that
one can PRESS to make the current selection.  A "back"
button as an afterthought.
>
But, it's the SOLE interface.
>
Works as expected to "select" cooking conditions.  But, the
designer/coder obviously forgot that multiple things can be
happening concurrently -- all of which require the user
to interact via that ONE interface!
>
So, if the user is in the process of doing one such thing and
some OTHER thing demands attention...?  Where is the interface
bound at that point in time?  Is he still doing that first
thing?  Or, interacting with that (asynchronous) second thing?
>
Eventually, the user resorts to turning the appliance OFF
(dedicated button to do so).  Which aborts BOTH tasks.  And,
leaves hi having to restart BOTH!
>
Yeah, I'm REALLY eager to turn on the factory's WiFi interface
for the stove/oven... NOT!

I insisted that our new cooktops have no electronics. Well, they have
igniters but you can still light them with a match.

We have a dual oven that for some reason has one section with a
classic pneumatic thermostat and the other with electronic controls.
Guess which is broken.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Dec 24 * Win11 explorer bug?58john larkin
9 Dec 24 +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?50Martin Brown
9 Dec 24 i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?49john larkin
10 Dec 24 i `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?48Martin Brown
10 Dec 24 i  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?47john larkin
10 Dec 24 i   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?46Martin Brown
10 Dec 24 i    `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?45john larkin
10 Dec 24 i     `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?44Martin Brown
10 Dec 24 i      `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?43john larkin
10 Dec 24 i       `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?42Martin Brown
11 Dec 24 i        `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?41john larkin
11 Dec 24 i         `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?40Martin Brown
11 Dec 24 i          +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
11 Dec 24 i          `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?38john larkin
12 Dec 24 i           `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?37Martin Brown
12 Dec 24 i            +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?35Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            i+* Re: Win11 explorer bug?26Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?25Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii i`- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?10Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            ii i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?9Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii i `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?8Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            ii i  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?7Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii i   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?6Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            ii i    `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?5Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii i     `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?4Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii i      `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii i       `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii i        `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?12Jeroen Belleman
12 Dec 24 i            ii  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?11Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?10Joe Gwinn
12 Dec 24 i            ii    +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii    `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?8Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii     +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii     `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?6Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii      `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?5Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii       `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?4Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii        `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii         +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii         `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?8john larkin
12 Dec 24 i            i +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            i i+- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            i i`- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Joe Gwinn
13 Dec 24 i            i `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?4Martin Brown
13 Dec 24 i            i  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            i   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2john larkin
13 Dec 24 i            i    `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1john larkin
12 Dec 24 i            `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1john larkin
9 Dec 24 +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Joe Gwinn
9 Dec 24 i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2john larkin
9 Dec 24 i `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Joe Gwinn
9 Dec 24 +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Edward Rawde
9 Dec 24 `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Martin Rid
9 Dec 24  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2Jeroen Belleman
11 Dec 24   `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Carlos E.R.

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