Re: Win11 explorer bug?

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Sujet : Re: Win11 explorer bug?
De : joegwinn (at) *nospam* comcast.net (Joe Gwinn)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 12. Dec 2024, 22:31:05
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:58:36 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2024-12-12 16:41, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 12/12/24 14:16, Don Y wrote:
On 12/12/2024 5:47 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-12-12 12:00, Don Y wrote:
Yeah, I'm REALLY eager to turn on the factory's WiFi interface
for the stove/oven... NOT!
 
There are devices that put the actual interface on the phone,
via WiFi. The physical interface has a reduced set of features.
 
Yes.  Via a server located at the manufacturer's facility!
 
So, you have the application layer in the appliance, the network
stack in the appliance, all of the network infrastructure from
your AP to the manufacturer's server, then, back through the phone
network, up through the stack in your phone and, finally, through
the app to the display.
 
Nothing can go wrong, there, right?  <rolls eyes>
 
Apart from the obvious security and reliability worries, there is
the issue that the *manufacturer* gets to decide when *your* device
is obsolete.
>
The device has a limited life expectancy, anyway. About 10 years. The
boiler needs replacement of rubber gasket every year or two. There is a
mandatory yearly maintenance visit. With the remote controller,
maintenance visits are every two years, because the remote server
monitors the parameters and decides when a visit is needed.
>
So, that convenience is decisive for me. Win win.

A dodge occurs to me:  Install a simple firewall between external
Internet and internal network that hosts such things as cameras and
furnaces.  Set the firewall to accept only one of a small set of white
listed sources, and otherwise not to reply.

White lists have the advantage of immunity to attempts from random
places.  The lack of response if not white listed will defeat most
port IP address and scanners, even though the firewall most likely can
be hacked if known. 

Upgrade the firewall from time to time, to sorta keep up with the
threats.

Joe Gwinn

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Dec 24 * Win11 explorer bug?58john larkin
9 Dec 24 +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?50Martin Brown
9 Dec 24 i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?49john larkin
10 Dec 24 i `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?48Martin Brown
10 Dec 24 i  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?47john larkin
10 Dec 24 i   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?46Martin Brown
10 Dec 24 i    `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?45john larkin
10 Dec 24 i     `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?44Martin Brown
10 Dec 24 i      `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?43john larkin
10 Dec 24 i       `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?42Martin Brown
11 Dec 24 i        `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?41john larkin
11 Dec 24 i         `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?40Martin Brown
11 Dec 24 i          +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
11 Dec 24 i          `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?38john larkin
12 Dec 24 i           `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?37Martin Brown
12 Dec 24 i            +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?35Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            i+* Re: Win11 explorer bug?26Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?25Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii i`- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?10Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            ii i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?9Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii i `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?8Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            ii i  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?7Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii i   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?6Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            ii i    `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?5Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii i     `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?4Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii i      `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii i       `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii i        `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?12Jeroen Belleman
12 Dec 24 i            ii  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?11Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?10Joe Gwinn
12 Dec 24 i            ii    +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            ii    `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?8Don Y
12 Dec 24 i            ii     +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii     `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?6Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii      `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?5Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii       `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?4Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii        `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            ii         +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Edward Rawde
13 Dec 24 i            ii         `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Edward Rawde
12 Dec 24 i            i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?8john larkin
12 Dec 24 i            i +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Carlos E.R.
12 Dec 24 i            i i+- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            i i`- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Joe Gwinn
13 Dec 24 i            i `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?4Martin Brown
13 Dec 24 i            i  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i            i   `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2john larkin
13 Dec 24 i            i    `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1john larkin
12 Dec 24 i            `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1john larkin
9 Dec 24 +* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Joe Gwinn
9 Dec 24 i`* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2john larkin
9 Dec 24 i `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Joe Gwinn
9 Dec 24 +- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Edward Rawde
9 Dec 24 `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?3Martin Rid
9 Dec 24  `* Re: Win11 explorer bug?2Jeroen Belleman
11 Dec 24   `- Re: Win11 explorer bug?1Carlos E.R.

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