Re: Battery (SLA) modeling

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Sujet : Re: Battery (SLA) modeling
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 13. Dec 2024, 12:17:03
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On 13/12/2024 5:57 pm, Don Y wrote:
At a fixed time and temperature, is it safe to model a battery as a
fixed voltage source behind a series resistance?  Possibly, additionally,
a parallel RC to cover transients?
The current carrying elements in a battery are ions moving through a soluvent, and they do look capacitative, but they are Warburg impedances and the capacitance varies with frequency.
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlehtml/2024/cp/d4cp00975d

In particular, does the model need to change based on whether the
battery is being charged or discharged?  (i.e., to estimate that
series resistance).
Probably not that much if the battery isn't getting close to full charge or total discharge.
Fully charged nickel cadmium batteries generate molecular oxygen at one electrode which diffuses back to the other electrode and oxidises metal there (which is why you can trickle charge Ni/Cd cells for ever if you keep the trickle charge current low enough). That might mess up the impedances a bit.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Dec 24 * Battery (SLA) modeling23Don Y
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4Martin Brown
13 Dec 24 i`* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2John R Walliker
13 Dec 24 i  `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
13 Dec 24 +- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Bill Sloman
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4Liz Tuddenham
13 Dec 24 i+* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2Martin Brown
13 Dec 24 ii`- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
13 Dec 24 i`- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling8john larkin
14 Dec 24 i+- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1piglet
14 Dec 24 i+* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling5Bill Sloman
17 Dec 24 ii`* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4bitrex
17 Dec 24 ii `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling3Bill Sloman
18 Dec 24 ii  `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2bitrex
18 Dec 24 ii   `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Joe Gwinn
14 Dec 24 i`- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Martin Brown
14 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4ehsjr
14 Dec 24 i`* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling3Don Y
16 Dec 24 i `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2ehsjr
17 Dec 24 i  `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
14 Dec 24 `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y

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