Re: Battery (SLA) modeling

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Sujet : Re: Battery (SLA) modeling
De : '''newspam''' (at) *nospam* nonad.co.uk (Martin Brown)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 13. Dec 2024, 17:43:15
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On 13/12/2024 15:54, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
 
At a fixed time and temperature, is it safe to model a battery as a
fixed voltage source behind a series resistance?  Possibly, additionally,
a parallel RC to cover transients?
>
In particular, does the model need to change based on whether the
battery is being charged or discharged?  (i.e., to estimate that
series resistance)
 Design for the worst possible series resistance and then some.  I have
been caught out by that a couple of times.  Screaming and apparently
untraceable audio instability in the middle of doing the P.A. for a
public event is highly embarassing. ("Yes, we put in a new battery - oh
no, someone must have put the old one back in the box with the others -
terribly sorry!")
I've seen kit intended to be powered by lead acid accumulators that has three diodes in series with the supply for when the battery is fresh off the charger and nearer to 14v than 12 with a switch to short them out when the battery starts to get low. It avoid the annoyance you had.
 Also, whatever the manufacturers clain for the battery capacity, design
for half that amount.  Batteries don't last forever but your customers
will assume they do and won't want to change them until they are well
below half capacity.
  I think most regular users of SLA's are aware of their weaknesses.
I love the way they swell up spectacularly inside certain brands of UPS making them almost impossible to remove. Cruel environment for any SLA.
--
Martin Brown

Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Dec 24 * Battery (SLA) modeling23Don Y
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4Martin Brown
13 Dec 24 i`* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling3Don Y
13 Dec 24 i `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2John R Walliker
13 Dec 24 i  `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
13 Dec 24 +- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Bill Sloman
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4Liz Tuddenham
13 Dec 24 i+* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2Martin Brown
13 Dec 24 ii`- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
13 Dec 24 i`- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling8john larkin
14 Dec 24 i+- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1piglet
14 Dec 24 i+* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling5Bill Sloman
17 Dec06:25 ii`* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4bitrex
17 Dec12:22 ii `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling3Bill Sloman
18 Dec17:56 ii  `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2bitrex
18 Dec19:58 ii   `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Joe Gwinn
14 Dec 24 i`- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Martin Brown
14 Dec 24 +* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling4ehsjr
14 Dec 24 i`* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling3Don Y
16 Dec21:16 i `* Re: Battery (SLA) modeling2ehsjr
17 Dec00:20 i  `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y
14 Dec 24 `- Re: Battery (SLA) modeling1Don Y

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