Re: Win11 explorer bug?

On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:01:41 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 06:18:54 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
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On 12/13/2024 2:55 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

On 12/12/2024 21:09, john larkin wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:00:23 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
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On 12/12/2024 2:59 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

Probably because it is *so* bug.
(typo for big but Freudian slip seems OK)

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Once something becomes "complex" (i.e., too large to fit in a
single brain), it becomes difficult to understand the repercussions
of specific design decisions -- because you can't remember
EVERYTHING with which they interact.

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Engineers design giant systrems - cars, airplanes, bridges, buildings
- with lots of parts, and nobody understands all the parts. And they
work first time.

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In my lifetime (or of sufficiently common "lore"):
  Hindenberg explosion
  Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse
  Chernobyl reactor
  Hyatt Regency walkway collapse
  Apollo 1 fire
  Apollo 13 O2 tank explosion
  Space Shuttle Challenger
  Space Shuttle Columbia
  Skylab
  Fukishima nuclear plant
  Deepwater Horizon fire/"spill"
  Doors falling out of airplanes
  Titanic
  BIG! chinese dam failure (no idea of name)
  World Trade Center towers
  Concorde
  De Gaulle airport collapse
  DC-10 engine falling off
  Titan submersible implosion
All, obviously, software problems??
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There are hundreds of years experience building large physical objects and
customers can more or less understand engineering diagrams and now virtual 3D
renderings of their new building made possible by software.

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<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_structural_failures>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_building_and_structure_collapses>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bridge_failures>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dam_failure#List_of_major_dam_failures>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hydroelectric_power_station_failures>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_thermal_power_station_failures>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_catastrophic_collapses_of_broadcast_masts_and_towers>
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Bias?  Or sheer Ignorance?

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What fraction of airplanes or bridges or buildings collapse? Estimate
that in PPMs.
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And what fraction of nontrivial programs are bug-free? Also in PPMs.