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Sujet : Re: Circuit Symbol
De : cd (at) *nospam* notformail.com (Cursitor Doom)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 20. Dec 2024, 19:48:25
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 09:04:52 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 14:29:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
wrote:
 
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:38:33 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
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john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 09:09:54 -0600, Dennis <dennis@none.none> wrote:
 
On 12/18/24 21:20, john larkin wrote:
 
 
I vaguely recall that they oscillated at somethig over 100 Hz. I
powered an old car radio with 60 Hz instead of the vibrator, and the
radio's step-up transformer ran hot.
 
They ran at a frequency as high as reasonable for a mechanical device.
This allowed for a smaller transformer.
 
Vibrating contacts were the first switching regulators. Auto
generators - before alternators - used a hysteretic oscillating
contact closure to drive the field coil. That was very efficient and
not especially reliable.
 
 
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Especially when made by Lucas.
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Cheers
>
Phil Hobbs
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The brits traditionallty split their motorcycle crankcases vertically,
to maximize oil leakage through the gaskets.
>
Those dumb Japanese, Honda and Kawasaki, split their crankcases
horizontally, which required us to change the oil, not just add it.
 
The Japanese initially started off by copying the British bikes. Then
they immediately set about looking for ways they could be improved.
Once they'd got ahead, they set about continually improving the
improved designs, even if they were only competing against themselves.
The British just sat back and complacently did nothing; just kept on
turning out the same old designs year in year out.
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The two major factors were the management and the unions, who both
deserved each other:
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The management saw research as an unnecessary expense that could be
dispensed with once there was a product which worked, however badly, and
which could be made and sold.  Real engineers hardly ever got into
management and didn't last long if they actually treid to practice
engineering.
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The unions had the management over a barrel and extorted every last
penny out of the firms, with restrictive practices hampering any
attempts at improvement.  Many of the production line workers would have
been unemployable in any other job and even the better ones were totally
unmotivated to produce a good product.
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I was lucky enough to work in a firm (in the same industrial area as a
major and much maligned car plant) that had neither of these
disadvantages and I still marvel at how good their products were and how
they managed to survive and make a profit whilst maintaining those
standards.

Sounds about right. The sixties and the seventies in particular were a
period in Britain where Marxists were hell-bent on destroying the
country and wanted to bring production to a halt on any old pretext.
The 'management' spent most of their time in the nearest pub having 3
hour long 'liquid lunches' which didn't help the fortunes of the
companies they were supposed to be running much, either. When Thatcher
got into power in '79, there were a huge number of arses in dire need
of kicking. And she duly delivered and an extremely painful period of
restructuring commenced.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 Dec19:38 * Circuit Symbol41Cursitor Doom
18 Dec19:57 +* Re: Circuit Symbol23john larkin
18 Dec20:00 i`* Re: Circuit Symbol22Cursitor Doom
18 Dec20:25 i `* Re: Circuit Symbol21john larkin
19 Dec00:55 i  `* Re: Circuit Symbol20Cursitor Doom
19 Dec01:30 i   `* Re: Circuit Symbol19john larkin
19 Dec02:02 i    `* Re: Circuit Symbol18Cursitor Doom
19 Dec04:20 i     +* Re: Circuit Symbol16john larkin
19 Dec16:09 i     i`* Re: Circuit Symbol15Dennis
19 Dec17:50 i     i `* Re: Circuit Symbol14john larkin
19 Dec21:38 i     i  `* Re: Circuit Symbol13Phil Hobbs
19 Dec23:29 i     i   `* Re: Circuit Symbol12john larkin
19 Dec23:39 i     i    +* Re: Circuit Symbol4Phil Hobbs
20 Dec00:46 i     i    i`* Re: Circuit Symbol3john larkin
20 Dec19:34 i     i    i `* Re: Circuit Symbol2Cursitor Doom
21 Dec04:20 i     i    i  `- Re: Circuit Symbol1john larkin
20 Dec00:39 i     i    `* Re: Circuit Symbol7Cursitor Doom
20 Dec01:01 i     i     +* Re: Circuit Symbol3john larkin
20 Dec19:41 i     i     i`* Re: Circuit Symbol2Cursitor Doom
20 Dec21:09 i     i     i `- Re: Circuit Symbol1john larkin
20 Dec10:04 i     i     `* Re: Circuit Symbol3Liz Tuddenham
20 Dec19:48 i     i      `* Re: Circuit Symbol2Cursitor Doom
21 Dec04:21 i     i       `- Re: Circuit Symbol1Bill Sloman
19 Dec10:56 i     `- Re: Circuit Symbol1Liz Tuddenham
18 Dec20:17 +- Re: Circuit Symbol1Edward Rawde
18 Dec20:25 +* Re: Circuit Symbol14bitrex
18 Dec21:30 i`* Re: Circuit Symbol13Cursitor Doom
18 Dec22:29 i `* Re: Circuit Symbol12Phil Hobbs
19 Dec00:57 i  +- Re: Circuit Symbol1Cursitor Doom
19 Dec01:33 i  +* Re: Circuit Symbol5john larkin
19 Dec22:44 i  i`* Re: Circuit Symbol4bitrex
19 Dec23:51 i  i +- Re: Circuit Symbol1Jeroen Belleman
20 Dec00:26 i  i +- Re: Circuit Symbol1TTman
20 Dec12:20 i  i `- Re: Circuit Symbol1Bill Sloman
19 Dec10:56 i  +- Re: Circuit Symbol1Liz Tuddenham
19 Dec22:41 i  `* Re: Circuit Symbol4bitrex
20 Dec19:30 i   `* Re: Circuit Symbol3Cursitor Doom
20 Dec21:25 i    `* Re: Circuit Symbol2Phil Hobbs
20 Dec22:11 i     `- Re: Circuit Symbol1Cursitor Doom
18 Dec20:30 `* Re: Circuit Symbol2Ralph Mowery
18 Dec20:59  `- Re: Circuit Symbol1Don

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