Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"

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De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 06. Jan 2025, 05:21:38
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On 6/01/2025 3:26 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:09:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
 
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
>
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people
who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever
nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today.
"Yeah, you're right?"
>
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so
it's not really a class-thing.
>
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
>
>
'Fraid people who believe nonsense of the type I mentioned are not at
all "invented", if you don't personally know any or have never met any
maybe it's cuz you live in one of the most leftist places on Earth? ???
 Humans are incredibly diverse.  You blame and mock (and imagine)
people who have different opinions than yours.
He blames and mocks people who assert - as facts - opinions that are demonstrably false. Your opinions about climate change come from climate change denial propaganda and are demonstrably false, but you are can't follow the demonstartion.

I think this intolerant diversity is evolved, naturally selected, as a
tribal survival mechanism. Probably your intolerance is genetic,
inherited; you can't help yourself.
Science hasn't been around long enough for critical thinking to get engineered into the genome. Diversity means that some people have a talent for it, and others - like you - can understand the concept at all.

This tribal tendency for intolerance is why we have wars.
No. Wars depend on the insight that if you kill the people who are currently occupying some desirable real estate, you occupy it yourself.
Intolerance doesn't come into it.

You are emotionally driven to believe that you are always right.
Most people have that problem. Scientific training involves learning to recognise that you can get stuff wrong, and learning how to change your opinions so that they conform more closely to reality.

That attitude, emotionally selective blindness and hostility to ideas, is
toxic to electronic design. I guess that's why so few people are good
at it.
Scientific training is aimed at minimising your emotional attachment to old ideas, and mastering the art of integrating good new ideas with good parts of what you already know.
The last fifty years of electronic design we've had a steady stream of new parts and new techniques that exploit them, so there's been a lot of throwing out of good ideas that can be replaced by better ones.
You don't seem to make any fuss about that aspects of electronic design. I talk about tearing up designs and starting over. You don't.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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1 Jan 25 * OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"62Cursitor Doom
1 Jan 25 +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"2Cursitor Doom
1 Jan 25 i`- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Carlos E.R.
2 Jan 25 +- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
2 Jan 25 +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"56Sylvia Else
2 Jan 25 i+* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"44Bill Sloman
4 Jan 25 ii`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"43bitrex
4 Jan 25 ii +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"2Cursitor Doom
4 Jan 25 ii i`- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
4 Jan 25 ii `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"40john larkin
4 Jan 25 ii  +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"4bitrex
4 Jan 25 ii  i`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"3john larkin
4 Jan 25 ii  i +- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1john larkin
5 Jan 25 ii  i `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
4 Jan 25 ii  +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"34bitrex
4 Jan 25 ii  i+* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"31john larkin
4 Jan 25 ii  ii`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"30bitrex
4 Jan 25 ii  ii `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"29john larkin
4 Jan 25 ii  ii  +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"24bitrex
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i+- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Liz Tuddenham
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"22john larkin
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"13bitrex
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"12john larkin
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"8bitrex
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"7john larkin
6 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i +- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
7 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i +- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1bitrex
7 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"4bitrex
7 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i  `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"3john larkin
7 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i   +- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1bitrex
8 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i   `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"2Cursitor Doom
6 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i`- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
6 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"7bitrex
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"6john larkin
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i +* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"3Cursitor Doom
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i+- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1john larkin
6 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i i`- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
6 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"2Bill Sloman
6 Jan 25 ii  ii  i i  `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Liz Tuddenham
6 Jan 25 ii  ii  i `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
5 Jan 25 ii  ii  `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"4Cursitor Doom
5 Jan 25 ii  ii   +- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1bitrex
5 Jan 25 ii  ii   +- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1bitrex
5 Jan 25 ii  ii   `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
4 Jan 25 ii  i`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"2Cursitor Doom
6 Jan 25 ii  i `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
5 Jan 25 ii  `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
2 Jan 25 i+* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"2Cursitor Doom
3 Jan 25 ii`- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
3 Jan 25 i+* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"7john larkin
3 Jan 25 ii`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"6Cursitor Doom
4 Jan 25 ii `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"5Bill Sloman
4 Jan 25 ii  +- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1bitrex
4 Jan 25 ii  `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"3bitrex
4 Jan 25 ii   `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"2Cursitor Doom
4 Jan 25 ii    `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
3 Jan 25 i`* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"2john larkin
4 Jan 25 i `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman
2 Jan 25 `* Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"2john larkin
3 Jan 25  `- Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"1Bill Sloman

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