Re: OT: Typical Globlist

On 16/01/2025 10:54 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 11:14:10 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 17:49:41 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 07:47:36 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:01:30 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
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Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
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... Los Angles has a perfectly competent fire department,
which did all that was humanly possible. Sadly, they can't do anything
about anthropogenic global warming

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Part of the problem was too many trees and other plants close together -
I don't notice anyone campaigning about that.
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Trees don't destroy CO2, they simply store it and release it later,
either as CO2 or as methane.

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Things that grow in California must get harvested or will burn. It's
been that way for millenia; the natives warned the Spanish about that.
When people put out small fires, as we have done for over a century
now, we add to the fuel load for giant firestorms. Blame Smokey The
Bear.
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Not only are unnaturally dense forests great fuel, houses are even
better. That was obvious in the Oakland and Paradise and Lahaina
fires; rows of houses set one another on fire and the trees survived.
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Pics show forests in California that are six times denser than they
were naturally, a century ago.
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And why do people build insanely flammible houses, right next to other
insanely flammible houses? Our cabin in the mountains won't burn,
because it would be very hard to ignite, and because we keep the
landscape free of stuff that would burn a lot.
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Let the insurance free market work.

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Quite. Be very interesting to see how Pacific Pallisades and its
neighbouring suburbs look in a few years' time from now. I suspect the
area will be far less verdant!
Here's another uncomfortable fact for our Democrat supporters to chew
on: seems the worst fire was started by an illegal immigrant from
Mexico with a blowlamp and the 'Kenneth' fire was - again - set by
another illegal alien. We're constantly told these people enrich our
culture, but that's hard to swallow when you take a look at all those
square miles of ruins and ashes.
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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-14/kenneth-fire-person-of-interest-is-a-convicted-felon-and-entered-country-illegally-ice-says
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Explain *that* away, Bill.

Why bother. Most wild-fires are started by lightning strikes, but politicians who don't like immigrants are happy to believe that they are started by illegal immigrants, and some of the police force is happy to give them what they want.

The problem isn't ignition sources. There will always be ignition
sources. The problem is the insane flammibility of overgrown forests
and dense flammible housing.
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Lots of the post-fire pics show rows of burned-out houses with green
trees alongside.

Presumably those people kept their tress watered.

It's crazy when one ember will set fire to a thousand houses. And
fires jumping streets.

Firestorms are nasty. The Allies started a few in Germany and Japan during WW2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebombing
It helps to break up the houses with explosive bombs before dropping incendiary devices. Setting big trees on fire so that they fall over and break-up nearby houses is nature's way of creating the same effect.

Why do people have houses with flammible roofs and flammible sides and
flammible attics and gutters full of leaves? Why have gutters at all?

The spelling is "flammable". Gutters full of leaves is just sloppy maintenance. Most housing regulations don't let you put up houses with flammable roofs and sides - the Great Fire of London in 1666 meant that London at least got rebuilt in a way that made a recurrence less likely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hooke
had a quite a lot to do with that. The knowledge of how to built cities that don't burn easily has been around for a while, but some people don't seem to be able to access it.

One answer is government incompetence, stupid building codes and
subsidized fire insurance.

It is the sort of answer that Cursitor Doom or Donald Trump would invent. It's not to be taken seriously, even after the spelling has been corrected.

Very true. I certainly wouldn't want to be Karen Bass when the embers
finally settle as it looks like she's going to be the focus of the
blame whether it's her fault or not.

Cursitor Doom does like his implausible theories. California didn't vote for Trump, so he has an interest in being rude about it's politicians.
The useful answer will be rather more complicated and less attractive to right-wing politicians, who find it easier to communicate nice simple fairy-stories.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney