Re: battery fire

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Sujet : Re: battery fire
De : jeroen (at) *nospam* nospam.please (Jeroen Belleman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 17. Jan 2025, 23:49:27
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On 1/17/25 23:12, john larkin wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 20:58:41 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
 
On 1/17/25 18:49, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 07:03:06 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
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https://sfstandard.com/2025/01/16/moss-landing-power-plant-fire-evacuations-highway-1/?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqEAgAKgcICjDWi6sLMNOWwwMwpvnXAw&utm_content=rundown
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Sounds expensive.
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Windmills, solar cells, batteries. May not be worth it long term.
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Luckily, the wind is not blowing the crud our way right now.
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Lithium technology really isn't up to the job. Someone needs to come
up with a quantum leap forward in batteries. A fortune awaits the
person or team which can deliver on this. And I mean a *fortune*.
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It's funny how 'quantum leap' has come to be taken for a
huge change, although it originally really meant the tiniest
possible change.
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High energy density batteries will always be dangerous.
It's the inevitable consequence of storing a lot of energy
in a small package. A tank full of fuel is really much
safer. What we really need is an efficient flow battery,
where reactive components are kept apart until needed.
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Jeroen Belleman
 Natural gas is great stuff. Burns clean with half the CO2 of coal.
 It's easy to store locally, and the pipelines store more. And there's
gobs underground and people keep finding more.
 Small-scale NG power plants are practical and reliable and elimniate
gigantic transmission lines and battery banks.
 But 2:1 isn't acceptable to greenies. Let them freeze in the dark
unemployed for a while and maybe they will reconsider.
Sigh. Indeed.
Jeroen Belleman

Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Jan 25 * battery fire41john larkin
17 Jan 25 +* Re: battery fire10Cursitor Doom
17 Jan 25 i+- Re: battery fire1john larkin
17 Jan 25 i`* Re: battery fire8Jeroen Belleman
17 Jan 25 i +- Re: battery fire1Phil Hobbs
17 Jan 25 i +* Re: battery fire5john larkin
17 Jan 25 i i+- Re: battery fire1Jeroen Belleman
17 Jan 25 i i+* Re: battery fire2Cursitor Doom
18 Jan 25 i ii`- Re: battery fire1Bill Sloman
18 Jan 25 i i`- Re: battery fire1Bill Sloman
18 Jan 25 i `- Re: battery fire1Liz Tuddenham
17 Jan 25 `* Re: battery fire30Martin Brown
17 Jan 25  +* Re: battery fire3Jeroen Belleman
18 Jan 25  i+- Re: battery fire1Bill Sloman
19 Jan 25  i`- Re: battery fire1Martin Brown
18 Jan 25  `* Re: battery fire26Jeff Layman
18 Jan 25   +* Re: battery fire23Liz Tuddenham
18 Jan 25   i+* Re: battery fire2Jeff Layman
27 Jan 25   ii`- Re: battery fire1albert
19 Jan 25   i+- Re: battery fire1Bill Sloman
19 Jan 25   i`* Re: battery fire19Bill Sloman
19 Jan 25   i +* Re: battery fire17Sergey Kubushyn
19 Jan 25   i i+* Re: battery fire3Bill Sloman
19 Jan 25   i ii`* Re: battery fire2Liz Tuddenham
20 Jan 25   i ii `- Re: battery fire1Bill Sloman
19 Jan 25   i i+- Re: battery fire1Jeff Layman
19 Jan 25   i i`* Re: battery fire12Jeroen Belleman
19 Jan 25   i i `* Re: battery fire11Cursitor Doom
19 Jan 25   i i  +* Re: battery fire8Jeroen Belleman
19 Jan 25   i i  i+* Re: battery fire3Jeff Layman
19 Jan 25   i i  ii`* Re: battery fire2Jeroen Belleman
20 Jan 25   i i  ii `- Re: battery fire1Jeff Layman
19 Jan 25   i i  i+* Re: battery fire2Cursitor Doom
19 Jan 25   i i  ii`- Re: battery fire1Jeroen Belleman
20 Jan 25   i i  i+- Re: battery fire1Martin Brown
27 Jan 25   i i  i`- Re: battery fire1albert
19 Jan 25   i i  `* Re: battery fire2Liz Tuddenham
19 Jan 25   i i   `- Re: battery fire1Cursitor Doom
19 Jan 25   i `- Re: battery fire1Martin Brown
18 Jan 25   `* Re: battery fire2john larkin
18 Jan 25    `- Re: battery fire1Cursitor Doom

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