Re: like butta

On Thu Jan 23 03:43:03 2025 Phil Hobbs  wrote:

Simon and I are working on a TDR based soil moisture sensor for
agriculture.  Like many such things, it uses two parallel tines made of
18/8 stainless, that form a balanced transmission line.
 
Ours has a slide hammer for pounding it into really difficult soil, e.g.
hardpan. The measured shock from that is around 1.6E5 m/s**2, i.e. 16000
gees, and over its lifetime it might see around 1E6 blows. Challenging.
 
Doing <200 ps TDR on a balanced line obviously needs a very wideband balun.
We?re using a plain ferrite design based on Ferroxcube 61 sleeves on 1.25mm
coax. The resulting 50-? differential mode goes into a machined tapered
structure that maintains 50 ohms while spreading out the mode to match the
25-mm tine spacing.
 
For survivability, the whole thing is being potted in very hard epoxy with
a dielectric constant of 3.5ish. This means that it?s hard to iterate?we
get one try per apparatus.
 
Sooooo, I tried making a soft material with that epsilon, which turns out
to be nontrivial. My initial thought was to use alumina lapping powder
(9.3) for filler and vaseline (2.0) for the matrix, but it turned into
clumps by the time it got to 3.0.
 
Casting about for alternatives, I remembered the butter in the lab fridge,
so I measured that: 3.8, better than good enough.
 
We were able to verify the design without doing anything irrevocable, and
there was some left over for the bagels.
 
Fun.
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
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Dr Philip C D Hobbs  Principal Consultant  ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics  Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

 
Just for future reference if you want a material much more rigid than
butter at room temperature you could try cocoa butter.  If you make
chocolates it is probably already in your pantry :-).  It's a mix of
triglycerides that melt between about 90 and 100 F so melting it to cast
in place or paint it on or clean it back off would be pretty easy.  I
found one online reference using Brave search that listed dielectric
constants for some fatty acids and trglycerides similar to those in cocoa
butter.  They were between about 3 and 3.4 so right in the range you were
lookng for.  Anyway, I was curious and bored ...
 
Regards,
Carl