Sujet : Re: like butta
De : pcdhSpamMeSenseless (at) *nospam* electrooptical.net (Phil Hobbs)
Groupes : sci.electronics.designDate : 27. Jan 2025, 00:54:45
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bitrex <
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On 1/23/2025 8:41 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/22/2025 10:43 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Simon and I are working on a TDR based soil moisture sensor for
agriculture. Like many such things, it uses two parallel tines made of
18/8 stainless, that form a balanced transmission line.
Ours has a slide hammer for pounding it into really difficult soil, e.g.
hardpan. The measured shock from that is around 1.6E5 m/s**2, i.e. 16000
gees, and over its lifetime it might see around 1E6 blows. Challenging.
Doing <200 ps TDR on a balanced line obviously needs a very wideband balun.
We’re using a plain ferrite design based on Ferroxcube 61 sleeves on 1.25mm
coax. The resulting 50-Ω differential mode goes into a machined tapered
structure that maintains 50 ohms while spreading out the mode to match the
25-mm tine spacing.
For survivability, the whole thing is being potted in very hard epoxy with
a dielectric constant of 3.5ish. This means that it’s hard to iterate—we
get one try per apparatus.
Sooooo, I tried making a soft material with that epsilon, which turns out
to be nontrivial. My initial thought was to use alumina lapping powder
(9.3) for filler and vaseline (2.0) for the matrix, but it turned into
clumps by the time it got to 3.0.
Casting about for alternatives, I remembered the butter in the lab fridge,
so I measured that: 3.8, better than good enough.
We were able to verify the design without doing anything irrevocable, and
there was some left over for the bagels.
Fun.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Cold you please test ninja turtle ooze and report back. It's some kind
of guar gum/vinyl acetate and borate gelatin:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flubber_(material)>
<https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-83700CO/dp/B0C6RFTJF2/>
Nah, Western religious art, particularly Italian Renaissance stuff, leaves
me cold. Cute little cupids representing the glorious cherubim, Madonnas
modeled after artists’ paramours, corrupt prelates and donors painted into
biblical scenes, blech.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Right well I don't know if pizza's dielectric properties have been
studied thoroughly but there's been a lot of work done on Jell-O, it
seems pretty customizable. There's always room for Jell-O
<https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/j150393a011>
It’s been used for making edible lasers.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
-- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics,Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics