Re: like butta

Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> wrote:

On 23/01/2025 2:43 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Simon and I are working on a TDR based soil moisture sensor for
agriculture.  Like many such things, it uses two parallel tines made of
18/8 stainless, that form a balanced transmission line.
 
Ours has a slide hammer for pounding it into really difficult soil, e.g.
hardpan. The measured shock from that is around 1.6E5 m/s**2, i.e. 16000
gees, and over its lifetime it might see around 1E6 blows. Challenging.
 
Doing <200 ps TDR on a balanced line obviously needs a very wideband balun.
We’re using a plain ferrite design based on Ferroxcube 61 sleeves on 1.25mm
coax. The resulting 50-Ω differential mode goes into a machined tapered
structure that maintains 50 ohms while spreading out the mode to match the
25-mm tine spacing.
 
For survivability, the whole thing is being potted in very hard epoxy with
a dielectric constant of 3.5ish. This means that it’s hard to iterate—we
get one try per apparatus.
 
Sooooo, I tried making a soft material with that epsilon, which turns out
to be nontrivial. My initial thought was to use alumina lapping powder
(9.3) for filler and vaseline (2.0) for the matrix, but it turned into
clumps by the time it got to 3.0.
 
Casting about for alternatives, I remembered the butter in the lab fridge,
so I measured that: 3.8, better than good enough.
 
We were able to verify the design without doing anything irrevocable, and
there was some left over for the bagels.
 
Fun.
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs

 
Butter seems to be pretty lossy at RF, but I don't know whether that
matters.
 
 

It was only an inch or two of propagation distance, and we were mostly
interested in the performance of the mode-matching structures.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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