Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV!

On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 12:48:17 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
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On 16/02/2025 6:41 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:53:37 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
 

On 2/15/2025 3:07 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

 
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So, if he was afraid of having a NATO Ukraine on his border, he
hasn't yet realized what a threat a re-ARMED Europe would pose in
that same geographical position.  Trump's trash talking may result
in a EUTO (without the US) that feels empowered to push back on
future issues without "consent" from the US.

 
Getting Europe's military up to the job would take at least a decade.
But there's no money available. Germany - once the economic powerhouse
of the continent - is on its knees and France likewise. And even if it
could be afforded - which it can't - we now know Putin can call upon
China and N. Korea, so if push ever came to shove, continental Europe
would be toast.

 
The US Abrahams tank relies on a German gun and UK (Chobham) armour.

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But the Americans won't have to fight if Trump has his way.  He thinks
he can just keep Putin happy by feeding him European countries,
one-by-one.

It may be a practical reality that Ukraine has to give up a slice of
"Russian speaking" territory to end the killing on both sides.

It may take another hundred years to civilize the Russians. Or maybe a
thousand.

Of course Trump doesn't want Americans to die in yet another stupid
European war. War is bad for business.