Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV!

On 18/02/2025 12:43 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:39:19 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
 

On 2/17/25 11:09, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
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On 17/02/2025 5:17 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 10:10:26 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
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Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 12:31:48 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:53:37 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
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On 2/15/2025 3:07 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > It was clearly aimed at the
home market; he was supposed to be there to > talk about security in
Europe and never even mentioned Ukraine.  All
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We (US) are governed by "entertainers", now more than ever.  It is the
nature of our "system" that we reward people who can win races instead
of govern.
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And, all of them end up "old and gray" (or, oldER and BALD as is the
case of The Orange One) in the process.
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that this speech has done is to turn most European countries against
the kind of ignorant, thuggish, self-serving America he represents.
Fortunately there are still many Americans who are not like that.

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This is probably a good thing.  Unless you are Putin.  It's pretty clear
that Russia is a Potemkin power -- definitely not a "World Power".
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The threat he poses is the threat ANY nation possessing nukes poses.
Care to make any guesses as to how many exist?  Or, *could* exist if
gifted the technology?
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The big question about Russian missiles and nukes is, will they work?

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The Russians know that their stuff isn't especially reliable, then and
now.  So they have always used lots of warheads, so at least one will
work.

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Four of them came down in Romania last week - we haven't heard much
about that on the UK news.  Two were in Moldavia, close to the border,
so they might have been a mistake, but two more were well inside
Romania.

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Perhaps if we hadn't breached the Minsk II Treaty and expanded NATO up
to Russia's doorstep, none of this ghastly mess would have happened in
the first place.

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The Russian invasion of Ukraine is a reminder of why Russia's neighbours
were so keen to join NATO.
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The ghastly mess is entirely driven by Russia's territorial ambitions.

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...and the failure of the rest of the World to react to it strongly and
quickly enough.
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Which would have triggered another world war.
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I'm sorry for Ukraine, but they've committed a grave error
trying to snuggle up to NATO too early. It might have worked
if they'd waited another 50 years or so, or until relations
of Russia with the west had developed into solid mutual trust.
Unfortunately, that is now out of the question.
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It's really a pity. For a while, it looked like it could
become a reality.

 It was never a good idea. Russia's only warm-water port could have
been blocked if Ukraine had joined NATO and that is something no
country could reasonably be expected to accept.

Cursitor Doom doesn't know about Vladivostok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok
The proposition that Russia is any kind of "reasonable" country is equally ill-informed.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney