Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV!

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Sujet : Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV!
De : liz (at) *nospam* poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 19. Feb 2025, 23:39:35
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Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 20:01:35 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
 
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>
[...]
>
There most assuredly *was* at *least* one case where a self-identified
"woman" who was convicted of rape was able to get himself sent to a
women's prison where he had a free hand to prey on as many vulnerable
women as he pleased. Understandly it caused a huge outcry in the press
at the time - and not just among Daily Mail readers. So don't try to
deny it.
>
Yes, something like that did happen.  A rapist who had no history of
being trans, but claimed he was trans, was housed for one night in a
separate cell within the 'estate' of a womens' prison while they decided
what to do with him.  He had no contact with any of the female inmates
and the next day was transferred to a mens' prison when they decided his
claim was bogus.
>
Don't believe everything you read in the British press.
>
>
It's utter lunacy and anyone who attempts to defend it is
likewise mentally-ill.
>
I agree - but you have the wrong target.  It was utter lunacy on the
part of the prison authorities who were so stupid they didn't realise
what a meal the gutter press would make of it.
 
Once again I must disagree. Nothing to do with stupidity/lunacy, but a
genuine FEAR on the part of the prison authorities...

Isn't that stupidity?

... that if they didn't
send this pervert to a women's prison, in accordance with the gender
he'd declared himself to be, there would be a very expensive and
damaging court case arising out of it had they been found to have
violated his human rights.

...but he was kept in a cell on his own, it just happened to be within
the 'estate' of a womens' prison.  That could have been a separate wing
or an isolated building, it certainly wasn't mixing with women
prisoners.  Some people in those circumstances are held in police cells
pending a decision on their future - it is merely a matter of
convenience.

Suppose a rapist really had been put in with a group of women prisoners
- he would very soon find he was a eunuch.  Perhaps it would be a good
thing for society if rapists were housed in womens' prisons after all.

Fear of legal consequences is what enables
this madness to thrive and the real fault lies with successive
governments for passing stupid/loony legislation which flies in the
face of all reason.

Then there is also stupidity on the part of the government for believing
what they are told by these lunatic pressure groups.  Transgender people
in general don't want discrimination for or against them, they just want
to be left alone to get on with their lives.


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