Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV!

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Sujet : Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV!
De : cd (at) *nospam* notformail.com (Cursitor Doom)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 20. Feb 2025, 01:55:02
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 14:27:57 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

On 2/19/2025 11:40 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
 
On 2/19/2025 3:51 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
The idea that a man who has the appearance of a woman could easily enter
a woman's bathroom and engage in nefarious activities drives even some
of my better-educated American relatives and associate into conniptions
of hand wringing.
>
It's a primitive fear that is drummed into women from an early age and
it's not uncommon in men either.  As soon as the spectre is raised of a
predatory man being present when you are at your most vulnerable, all
logical thought is suppressed.  That is what they are playing on.
>
And, what was the reason for fearing blacks, mexicans, homosexuals,
etc?
 
If the bigots who are currenly spouting anti-trans rhetoric were to
substitue the word 'black' for 'transgender', their true nature would be
more obvious and fewer people would be fooled.
>
I disagree.  I don't see it as "another form of racism".  Rather,
it's just the latest "thing to be feared".  Another way to draw
a line between "you" and "them".  Of course, the assumption is
that the stuff on the YOU side of the line is "better", "more natural",
"correct", etc.
>
And, to reinforce this, you hunt for arbitrary data that you can spin into
a fairy tale that you can sell to the gullible ("ready to be scared").
>
In a different but similar vein, I had a discussion with a neighbor
who was claiming we shouldn't use wind power because of all the birds
it kills!
>
"Should we also ban *cats*?  Glass windows (into which birds can
collide)?  Insecticides?"
>
As is commonly the case, they are ignorant of the actual extent of
the IMAGINED problem:  exactly how many birds ARE killed by windmills?
how many by household and feral cats?  attributed to poisons that
make their way into their digestive systems?
>
And, are there other remedies that can address this (*these*!) alleged
problem?
>
It may only be a matter of time before they start targeting other
minority groups- then America will have rolled back over 150 years of
civilisation.
>
The same neighbor who advocated against windmills vocally supports
deporting all of the illegal immigrants -- "but only the CRIMINALS!"
>
"Um, if they are in the country without documented permission, haven't
they committed a crime?  And, if they have committed *a* crime, aren't
they criminals??"
>
"Oh, but I don't want the guy who weeds my yard to be deported!  *He*
hasn't /killed/ anyone..."
>
(Oh, so it's only certain criminals that you want to be rid of?
Surely you would be more than willing to pay the increased rate
for a LEGAL resident to pull your weeds, right?)
>
The palestinian groups (here) are now starting to rethink their
NOT backing Harris (because she wouldn't speak out against
Israel and banning weapon sales).  "Did you stop to think
about what the alternative would entail?"
>
I suspect we'll see them rounded up, soon -- along with other
groups of immigrants that aren't yet legal residents (e.g.,
refugees from Ukraine).
>
But, hay, wur makin' amerika grate!
>
My money is on China cleaning Trump's clock.  And, he will have
set himself up for it (with all the china bashing).  When Xi
decides "now is the time" to reunify Taiwan with Mainland China,
Trump will discover that beating his chest and idle threats
won't do anything to alter the outcome.
>
And, to his chagrin, the consequences will likely be a meltdown of
global markets.

Trump is rightly washihng his hands of Ukraine as he wants to focus on
events in the oriental region. He's said as much only days ago.

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