Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?

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De : christopher (at) *nospam* librehacker.com (Christopher Howard)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 20. Feb 2025, 23:41:02
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If you make your signals balanced differential drive then you can
withstand a lot of ambient common mode noise without problems. The way
that instrumentation amplifiers do it.
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I'm interested in this idea, though I'm not sure how to apply this in
any practical way to the connections inside the analog computer, i.e.,
the patches between the different integrators and such.

As far as the connection from the signal generator to the analog
computer input, that doesn't sound too hard. But with a quick search on
the Internet, it seems that balanced cables are not made with BNC
connectors on one end, to match the signal generator. Do you know of an
adapter that would work for this?

For the differential receiver, do I need anything special for this, or
can I just feed the conductors into an LF356 op amp (unity gain
configuration...?)

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IOW rather than coax you have two signal lines v+ and v- inside a
passive conductive outer shield that plays no part in the signal
transmission. It is there only as a Faraday shield against external
interference.
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Any particular cable you recommend?

I think there is something funny going on with your setup.

I don't know of anything "funny" but am still learning. This is
certainly a DIY, learn-as-you-go project. For the analog computer, I'm
largely following the Grappendorf schematics, though building it on a
breadboard instead of printing the PCBs, which I can't afford right now.

https://www.grappendorf.net/projects/analog-computer/

Some other substitutions I have made: I haven't built a PS as I happen
to have access to a bipolar 15V supply already, though admittedly it is
a rather old unit. I also haven't built the reference voltage module but
am hoping to have parts for that in the next few weeks.

--
Christopher Howard

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19 Feb 25 * signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?55Christopher Howard
19 Feb 25 +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?32John Larkin
19 Feb 25 i+- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Liz Tuddenham
20 Feb 25 i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?30Christopher Howard
20 Feb 25 i +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?3Liz Tuddenham
20 Feb 25 i i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?2Christopher Howard
21 Feb 25 i i `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Liz Tuddenham
20 Feb 25 i +- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1legg
20 Feb 25 i +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?24Martin Brown
20 Feb 25 i i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?23Christopher Howard
21 Feb 25 i i +- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Christopher Howard
21 Feb 25 i i +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?20Martin Brown
21 Feb 25 i i i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?19Christopher Howard
21 Feb 25 i i i `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?18Edward Rawde
21 Feb 25 i i i  `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?17Christopher Howard
21 Feb 25 i i i   +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?15Joe Gwinn
21 Feb 25 i i i   i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?14Christopher Howard
22 Feb 25 i i i   i `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?13Joe Gwinn
22 Feb 25 i i i   i  +- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1John Larkin
24 Feb 25 i i i   i  `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?11Christopher Howard
25 Feb 25 i i i   i   `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?10Bill Sloman
25 Feb 25 i i i   i    `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?9Christopher Howard
25 Feb 25 i i i   i     +- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Edward Rawde
26 Feb 25 i i i   i     `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?7Bill Sloman
26 Feb 25 i i i   i      `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?6Bill Sloman
26 Feb 25 i i i   i       +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?3Liz Tuddenham
26 Feb 25 i i i   i       i+- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Martin Brown
26 Feb 25 i i i   i       i`- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Edward Rawde
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27 Feb 25 i i i   i        `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Bill Sloman
21 Feb 25 i i i   `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Edward Rawde
21 Feb 25 i i `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1John Larkin
20 Feb 25 i `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Edward Rawde
19 Feb 25 +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?4Cursitor Doom
20 Feb 25 i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?3Christopher Howard
21 Feb 25 i `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?2piglet
21 Feb 25 i  `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Edward Rawde
19 Feb 25 +- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Edward Rawde
19 Feb 25 +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?7Martin Brown
20 Feb 25 i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?6Christopher Howard
20 Feb 25 i +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?2Cursitor Doom
20 Feb 25 i i`- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Christopher Howard
20 Feb 25 i +- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Martin Rid
20 Feb 25 i `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?2Martin Brown
20 Feb 25 i  `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Christopher Howard
19 Feb 25 +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?2Don Y
20 Feb 25 i`- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Christopher Howard
20 Feb 25 +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?5Bill Sloman
20 Feb 25 i`* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?4Edward Rawde
21 Feb 25 i `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?3Bill Sloman
21 Feb 25 i  `* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?2Edward Rawde
22 Feb 25 i   `- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Bill Sloman
21 Feb 25 +* Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?2David Lesher
21 Feb 25 i`- Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise?1Martin Brown
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