Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV!

On 23/02/2025 8:09 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 06:52:19 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
<usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
 

On 2025-02-22, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 04:41:11 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
<usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
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On 2025-02-22, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

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Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold
higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not

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That 1s an example of how to lie using statistics,  instead compare those who had the
surgery against those who were refused it.

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No comment here?
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It is well known that certain right wing idiots like to bully
transgender people, and also well known that being bullied is correlated
with suicide.  This is perhaps a partial explanation of why risk is
sill elevated after the surgery.

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A trans person is unlikely to be bullied in person,

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The leaders over there are passing laws and issuing directives
that explicty target them in person.
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so should stay off social media and advertising their status to said right-wing idiots.

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Next it will be blacks, jews and immigrants.
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If more people would stop staring at their phones all day, being
"social", there would be far fewer "trans" people. Factor of 10
roughly.

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You heard it here! apparently Tim Cook is turning Americans gay!
atleast accrding to John Larkin.
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A similarly bad agument (to yours{?} above) could be made that those who had surgery to remove
cancers are more likely to die of cancer, than those were not given
that surgery (since not dignosed with cancer).

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But most cancers were dependably fatal. And now many cancers are
routinely curable. Some in minutes. And cancer surgery is based on
sound medical practice.

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There's hope for you yet.  Sometimes you're capable of identifying a
bad argument when it is explicitly pointed out.  But you appear to
be doubling down on your obvously flawed interpretation of the study you
cited.
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Let physically normal kids work their way through puberty before we
apply irreversable chemical or surgical procedures.

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It seems like you want to make a traumatic time even more traumatic.
What it your justification for this trasvesty?
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See "No comment here?" above.  Your "evidence" is flawed, but your
emotional arguments are still strong.  What is yuor goal with this?
Is it turning trans people into teen suicides? I know childhood is a
dangerous time in third-world counties and the USA,  bur is this
really what you want?

 When I was growing up back in more sane times, there were no 'trans
kids' - they simply didn't exist.

They existed all right, but weren't recognised as such.

The only hermaphrodites we encountered were the toads in school science labs.

Trans kids aren't hermaphrodites - there are human kids whose sex organs are strange, but they aren't the people who are being made a fuss about.

We had no 'transkids' and no child suicides either. NONE. Coincidence?

Of course you had child suicides, but nobody admitted that they were suicides - they didn't want to embarrass the family, or make the effort required to detect children at risk or make the effort to do anything to make other kids less likely to suicide.
It's never been a frequently occurring problem and the current fuss is all about right-wing lunatics who want to make an issues of it.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney