Re: Fast sampler

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Sujet : Re: Fast sampler
De : jl (at) *nospam* 650pot.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 06. Mar 2025, 04:01:41
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On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 20:10:08 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2025-03-05 20:07, Joerg wrote:
On 3/5/25 5:00 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2025-03-05 19:15, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 18:20:47 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
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Hi, All,
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Late last year we did a fast sampler/TDR with nice clean 60 ps edges.
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We're gearing up to actually sell them, so I did a short technical
writeup on the design, which may be of interest.
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<https://electrooptical.net/News/a-high-performance-time-domain-reflectometer>
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Neat. No step-recovery diodes.
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Well, 40 years does get you something sometimes. ;)
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And those cheap yet blazingly fast RF transistors, thanks to cell phones
and all. They make nice pulsers. But they are like the princess on the
pea, very low Vce and if you go a smidgen above ... poof.
 
[...]
 
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They're not that bad, really--their betas are so high that BV_CEO is
lowish, but BV_CBO is 12 volts or more.  Their saturation behavior is
still pretty BJTish, though. ;)
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Cheers
>
Phil Hobbs

I toyed with the idea of using a PHEMT as a series-switch fast
sample-and-hold.

Hey, here's another goofy idea:

We used to make fast linear ramps, driving a comparator against a DAC,
as a programmable delay. But we got smarter and just used an RC
charging thing, and mucked the DAC codes with a polynomial to get our
delay.

But what if the comparator sees a fast RC on one input and a slow RC
on the other? The exponential curves cancel, and you get a nice slow
linear sampling timebase. If you don't quibble too much.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Mar 25 * Fast sampler29Phil Hobbs
6 Mar 25 +* Re: Fast sampler16john larkin
6 Mar 25 i`* Re: Fast sampler15Phil Hobbs
6 Mar 25 i `* Re: Fast sampler14Joerg
6 Mar 25 i  `* Re: Fast sampler13Phil Hobbs
6 Mar 25 i   `* Re: Fast sampler12john larkin
6 Mar 25 i    `* Re: Fast sampler11Phil Hobbs
6 Mar 25 i     `* Re: Fast sampler10Phil Hobbs
6 Mar 25 i      `* Re: Fast sampler9john larkin
6 Mar 25 i       `* Re: Fast sampler8Phil Hobbs
6 Mar 25 i        `* Re: Fast sampler7john larkin
6 Mar 25 i         `* Re: Fast sampler6Bill Sloman
6 Mar 25 i          `* Re: Fast sampler5Joerg
6 Mar 25 i           `* Re: Fast sampler4john larkin
6 Mar 25 i            `* Re: Fast sampler3Joerg
7 Mar 25 i             `* Re: Fast sampler2john larkin
7 Mar 25 i              `- Re: Fast sampler1Joerg
6 Mar 25 +- Re: Fast sampler1Joerg
6 Mar 25 +- Re: Fast sampler1Bill Sloman
10 Mar 25 `* Re: Fast sampler10Tom Del Rosso
10 Mar 25  +- Re: Fast sampler1Bill Sloman
10 Mar 25  +* Re: Fast sampler2john larkin
11 Mar 25  i`- Re: Fast sampler1Joerg
11 Mar 25  `* Re: Fast sampler6Phil Hobbs
11 Mar 25   +* Re: Fast sampler2john larkin
12 Mar 25   i`- Re: Fast sampler1Phil Hobbs
12 Mar 25   +- Re: Fast sampler1KevinJ93
12 Mar 25   +- Re: Fast sampler1Bill Sloman
12 Mar 25   `- Re: Fast sampler1Bill Sloman

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