Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource

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Sujet : Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 12. Mar 2025, 04:09:35
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On 12/03/2025 12:47 am, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/03/2025 13:18, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 11/03/2025 11:43 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-03-10 15:28, Bill Sloman wrote:
 
The historical record - in terms of meteor craters big enough to have survived for a few million years - demonstrates that big earth grazing asteroids are pretty rare. I imagine that somebody has worked out what the distribution is, at least roughly.
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There is evidence of dangerous "objects" hitting the earth and causing destruction in the "historic" age.
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Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
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We were just fortunate that it hit a non populated area, otherwise it could have destroyed a city. The explosion was between 3 and 50 megatons.
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You really are a twit. If you had bothered to read all the way through my post, you would have found exactly the same url (so it shows up twice in your post, which is a touch comical).
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And the object didn't explode - it just came apart. Lots of very fast moving, very hot rocks rocks (it does seem to have a stony asteroid, which is presumably why it didn't make all the way down to the ground) would have produced a huge shock wave, so it might as well have exploded, but calling it an explosion implies that the energy emerged suddenly, rather than just coupling into the atmosphere when the air got dense enough to have a significant interaction with the fast moving rock.
 The exact dynamics for Tunguska are still a bit unclear but assuming it was a typical rock ice composite material then it probably did to a very good approximation explode once the hypersonic shockwave from impacting the denser atmosphere exceeded the binding forces holding it together. Most sources describe it as an explosion at about 6 miles altitude.
 https://www.nasa.gov/history/115-years-ago-the-tunguska-asteroid-impact-event/
 No pieces of it have ever been identified as reaching the ground.
It is assumed that most of it vapourised.
 Finding meteorites is a lot easier in Antarctica than on Arctic tundra.
The surface of rocky asteroid falling through the atmosphere will get very hot, but it doesn't spend much time in the atmosphere so the core of the asteroid won't.
The surface shell will expand and peel back - and with a rock ice composite some of the superficial water will turn into high pressure steam and expand any crevices it can get into.
You've got to think about a progressive ex-foliation. At some point the high pressure steam may get to the core of the asteroid, and if that happens before it hits the ground the core - which will still be moving very fast - has a chance to get hot as well.
Reducing this down to an explosion at a single point is an over-simplification, if handy one.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Mar 25 * Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource30Bill Sloman
4 Mar 25 +* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource27TTman
5 Mar 25 i+* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource21john larkin
5 Mar 25 ii`* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource20Bill Sloman
5 Mar 25 ii +* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource2Carlos E.R.
5 Mar 25 ii i`- Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource1Joe Gwinn
6 Mar 25 ii `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource17Bill Sloman
6 Mar 25 ii  `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource16Carlos E.R.
6 Mar 25 ii   `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource15Bill Sloman
6 Mar 25 ii    `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource14Carlos E.R.
6 Mar 25 ii     `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource13Bill Sloman
10 Mar 25 ii      +* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource8Carlos E.R.
10 Mar 25 ii      i`* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource7Bill Sloman
11 Mar 25 ii      i `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource6Carlos E.R.
11 Mar 25 ii      i  `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource5Bill Sloman
11 Mar 25 ii      i   +* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource2Martin Brown
12 Mar 25 ii      i   i`- Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource1Bill Sloman
11 Mar 25 ii      i   `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource2Carlos E.R.
12 Mar 25 ii      i    `- Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource1Bill Sloman
11 Mar 25 ii      `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource4Martin Brown
11 Mar 25 ii       `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource3Bill Sloman
11 Mar 25 ii        `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource2Martin Brown
12 Mar 25 ii         `- Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource1Bill Sloman
5 Mar 25 i`* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource5Martin Brown
5 Mar 25 i +- Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource1Don Y
5 Mar 25 i `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource3john larkin
5 Mar 25 i  +- Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource1Martin Brown
10 Mar 25 i  `- Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource1Bill Sloman
10 Mar 25 `* Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource2legg
11 Mar 25  `- Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource1Bill Sloman

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