Re: Too much time on their hands!

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Sujet : Re: Too much time on their hands!
De : '''newspam''' (at) *nospam* nonad.co.uk (Martin Brown)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 19. Mar 2025, 23:00:50
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On 19/03/2025 14:32, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:42:37 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
 
On 18/03/2025 15:03, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:08:32 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
Unless you do a lot of video editing or 3D rendering the GPU built into
the modern Intel chips is entirely adequate for 2D business graphics.
>
I wish they would help with Spice. Yesterday we were running a pretty
simple power supply sim at around 100 us/s. It takes many minutes to
settle out, and it's hard to learn with such delayed feedback.
>
Have you tried running two instances of Spice at the same time?
>
On a suitably beefy machine with plenty of ram it might be possible to
run two different sets of parameters at the same time on the performance
cores without saturating memory or disk IO bandwidth.
>
It will depend critically on how big the matrix problem gets but for
some smaller problems it might possibly be an option.
 Two instances would be confusing. One use of Spice is to train one's
instincts and iterate a design.
You could try two alternative values for one parameter at the same time.

At times yesterday, the power supply sim was running at picoseconds
per second. LT Spice allows one to set the max time step, but not the
minimum time step.
That is usually an indication that there is something stiff about the differential equations being solved and that the algorithm has halved the time step many times in a desperate attempt to control the error budget. I once had a plot job from solving a very stiff set of equations cancelled by the operator "because the red pen began to work loose". The line segments approaching zero got very very short indeed!

The Gear solver and some relaxed tolerances seem to be better for this
case.
 In one recent case the sim kept stalling. I added a 1K resistor off to
the side, one end grounded and the other end connected to nothing.
That fixed things.
That is odd. I can imagine adding a 1M resistor between some pair of nodes might take the edge off it.

Inductors, especially coupled inductors, are quirky. A little ESR
often helps, but that may be random, like the 1K resistor.
Resonant tank circuits with high Q can sometimes cause trouble.
--
Martin Brown

Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Mar 25 * Too much time on their hands!21Don Y
17 Mar 25 +* Re: Too much time on their hands!9john larkin
18 Mar 25 i`* Re: Too much time on their hands!8Martin Brown
18 Mar 25 i +- Re: Too much time on their hands!1Don Y
18 Mar 25 i `* Re: Too much time on their hands!6john larkin
19 Mar 25 i  `* Re: Too much time on their hands!5Martin Brown
19 Mar 25 i   `* Re: Too much time on their hands!4john larkin
19 Mar 25 i    `* Re: Too much time on their hands!3Martin Brown
20 Mar 25 i     `* Re: Too much time on their hands!2Gerhard Hoffmann
20 Mar 25 i      `- Re: Too much time on their hands!1john larkin
17 Mar 25 `* Re: Too much time on their hands!11Lasse Langwadt
18 Mar 25  `* Re: Too much time on their hands!10Don Y
19 Mar 25   `* Re: Too much time on their hands!9Lasse Langwadt
20 Mar 25    `* Re: Too much time on their hands!8Don Y
20 Mar 25     `* Re: Too much time on their hands!7Lasse Langwadt
20 Mar 25      `* Re: Too much time on their hands!6Don Y
21 Mar 25       `* Re: Too much time on their hands!5john larkin
21 Mar 25        `* Re: Too much time on their hands!4Liz Tuddenham
21 Mar 25         `* Re: Too much time on their hands!3john larkin
21 Mar 25          `* Re: Too much time on their hands!2Liz Tuddenham
22 Mar 25           `- Re: Too much time on their hands!1Don Y

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