Re: CAT5e cable

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Sujet : Re: CAT5e cable
De : joegwinn (at) *nospam* comcast.net (Joe Gwinn)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 21. Apr 2025, 01:41:04
Autres entêtes
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:56:08 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

On 4/20/2025 2:15 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
My concern is mainly to know how to specify the type of cable
that should be used in future installations (in which I won't
likely be involved).  Other than naming a specific vendor
and model number (whose manufacture could also change, over
time)
>
As I suspect "paid help" would be less meticulous than I, it
would be wise to specify materials that they would be less
likely to abuse.  <frown>
 
The simplest way I know of is to get samples and cut them open for
detail inspection.
>
That only works for the samples you have in your hands.
I don't see any criteria that is *specified* for the
cables that highlights the differences that I am seeing.

True.  You can specify such things, but dream on - the vendors won't
notice of care. 

The only things you can specify are  the overall system-driven
requirements like max attenuation versus frequency and distance,
shielding effectiveness, and the like.

And buying sight unseen is almost guaranteed to end in tears.


If I specify "Belden xyz" or "Southwire abc", there's no
guarantee that they won't change how they are manufactured.
Or, the aspect that I'm concerned with.
>
Or, simply stop making it.

Yep.

Life's like that.

Joe




So, I'm looking for a way of specifying the criteria that
are important -- and, ideally, of extracting it from a
manufacturer's datasheet.
>
Without destructive inspection, there are a few tests.   First, mass
per length - heavier is better.
>
Weight is likely something that can be easily determined -- even
without actual samples in your hands.  And, holding the wire gauge
constant, you'd have to assume any weight differences were due to
changes in insulation and/or jacket.
>
Unless, of course, they also include the weight of the packaging...
>
 Second is DC resistance of each
conductor per length - smaller is better.  For shielded twisted pair,
the shield quality can be measured, but this requires special tools.
 
Joe Gwinn
>

Date Sujet#  Auteur
20 Apr 25 * CAT5e cable13Don Y
20 Apr 25 +* Re: CAT5e cable6Don Y
20 Apr 25 i`* Re: CAT5e cable5Joe Gwinn
20 Apr 25 i +- Re: CAT5e cable1john larkin
20 Apr 25 i `* Re: CAT5e cable3Don Y
21 Apr 25 i  `* Re: CAT5e cable2Joe Gwinn
21 Apr 25 i   `- Re: CAT5e cable1Don Y
21 Apr 25 `* Re: CAT5e cable6Jeff Liebermann
21 Apr 25  +- Re: CAT5e cable1Don Y
8 May 25  `* Re: CAT5e cable4David Lesher
8 May 25   +- Re: CAT5e cable1Don Y
8 May 25   `* Re: CAT5e cable2Jeff Liebermann
8 May 25    `- Re: CAT5e cable1Jeff Liebermann

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